Re: -- The Ira Issue

["C S Armitage" <soren_nyrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quite possibly, and I agree: I _know_ very little about the man. But he
falls into that fic-class of people you want to un-like. All the cute kids,
for one, and all the petty tyrants for another. Real tyrants we want to
meet a "fitting" end: the petty ones we simply want rid of, because they
don't "deserve" a fitting end.

What I _do_ notice, is that, as far as I can recall (and someone will wrote
chapter and verse to prove me wrong, I just know it) we never get any
positive feedback on Willow's parents, even setting aside the MOO busienss,
when Joyce is also tarred. Xander's parents we know he doesn't get on with,
but they don't seem to hack into him, or stop him hanging, but the first
comment we get on Will's mother is Cordy's famous "softer side of Sears"
which implies to me that Willow's parents are known, to her Sunnydale
contemporaries, as trying to control her life. Anyway, I see no reason to
like the man, and I reiterate my call for someone to take him down to the
far end of the Woodland, and feed him either to
William-the-Bloody-Silly-Voiced, or to somethings small and nibbly.
I'm sure the tomatoes and other vegetable life that I gather gather down
there will cope, and he ought to compost nicely.

Soren


Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:27:18 +0700
From: Drucilla Ashton <drucilla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Feedback

Hi, I think the reason he ( Ira Rosenberg) is often written this way is that
it is
easy. All we know about him is that A) he would freak if he ever saw a
crusifix in his
daughters roomand B) he would have to be the type of man to actually marry
the Shwlia
Rosenberg as found in the "MOO" episode. That said, it creates the image of
an
extrodinarily rigid and obnoxious person.. Fanfiction writers thrive on
potential.
WHen the information concerning a character is open to the author's
interpertation.
Take the whole Graham-mania, he must of said three lines in the show, so we
can write
him as we like. Many writers empithize with Willow (including me) we see
her
lonleyness, and want to punish thoes who we blame for it. The amounts of
times Willow
and Xander's "loved ones" have come to an untimley demise is numerous
because the small
amount of information given has pointed in a pretty negative direction,
createing
subsext about unspoken pain. And...Uh...Yeah. That's it I guess.
-Dru


Christeen Demons wrote:

> >
> >Tell Me I Was Dreaming :: Will somebody just lay Ira Rosenberg to rest
once
> >and for all. I don't think I've read a fic in which he doesn't turn out
> >narrow-minded and crabby, and pretty damn-near utterly uninterested in
> >anything his daughter (his only daughter, I think) wants, unless it
aligns
> >with what he wants. This is not a man it's a walking sachet of
blood-to-go
> >and needs Spike to take him somewhere and feed him to some one or some
> >thing. Or couldn't he swap places with Amy (that would at least give me
> >another female character to slash with).
>
> LOL...Out of all of the reply's that I've gotten stating they hated Ira
> Rosenberg, I think this one was the best.:-) I'm not sure if I intended
to
> write him so hateful...I just couldn't help myself, but then again, I
guess
> I'm not the only one who sees him this way. Not sure why? Anyone care to
> hazard a guess?
>
> Shyfox
> >
>
>