re: OT: Buffy gets screwed at the Emmys

[Nathan Campbell <NathanCampbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there were only two broadcast
networks and just one cable network involved in that list of most of
the important nomination spots. I've stopped watching ER (having seen
the indications early on in the season), and while I've always kind of
liked the Practice, it's just a show, not a force like some of the
other options for nomination (e.g. Buffy). You made another
interesting point, too, Kirayoshi -- despite it's intrinsic maturity
and literally aging story arc, Buffy will always suffer the stigma of
it's original high-school-age target audience; the high-ups at Emmy
probably think of it as just a glorified "Saved by the Bell". When it
comes to the sci-fi/fantasy angle, we'll just have to take the long
view; after several decades, the critics seem to be starting to like
the original Star Wars trilogy... maybe something like that will
happen with Buffy in a few years. And hey, maybe the combination of
Buffy, maybe eventually Angel, and Star Trek: Enterprise will finally
put UPN on the map! (Yes, I know I'm kidding myself. I don't care.)

Nathan Campbell
NathanCampbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx

When sun sprays the earth
with straight-falling flames,
a cricket rubs his wings,
scraping up thin sweet song.
-Sappho


Jim_D_Means@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> ** Original Subject: ::BuffyWantsWillow:: OT: Buffy gets screwed at the
Emmys
> ** Original Sender: Phoen Dusk <Dusk@xxxxxxxxx>
> ** Original Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:06:51 -0400

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> Well, as some of you may be aware, the 2001 Primetime Emmy Award
nominations
> were announced July 12th. For most of us, the day passed uneventfully. 
Recent
> commercials, congratulating shows on their nominations, prompted me to
check the
> list of nominations.
> 
> There was a campaign to get "The Body" nominated for Outstanding Writing
for a
> Drama Series. You know who actually got the nominations. One went to The
West
> Wing for the S1 ending/S2 opening episodes. I have no problem with that, I
> enjoy the show immensely and the writing was superb. The other four
nominations
> were divided between The Sopranos, The Sopranos, The Sopranos, and The
> Sopranos. No, I'm not kidding. For the fifth year, Buffy has once again
been
> given not one nomination.
> 
> Outstanding Drama Series considerations are West Wing, Sopranos (both top
notch
> shows), The Practice, ER (both of which had mediocre seasons at best), and
Law &
> Order.
> Outstanding Supporting Actress (Drama) went to Maura Tierney (ER), Tyne
Daily
> (Judging Amy), Aida Turturro (Sopranos), Stockard Channing and Allison
Janney
> (both of West Wing). Where is Alyson Hannigan in that? Stockard Channing
(as
> good as she is) was barely on the show! She had more interim appearances
than
> you could shake a stick at, but because her name is in the credits they
bump
> Aly!
> Outstanding Supporting Actor (Drama) went to West Wing (3) or Sopranos (2).
Um,
> James Marsters ring a bell at all?
> 
> Is it me, or does it seem like The Academy is trying to kiss someone's ass
> here? There were more travesties of justice; if you want to check them
out,
> here's the link.
> 
> http://www.emmys.org/awards/2001noms.htm
> 
> Phoen Dusk
> Tiger Beret of the Woods Outback Border Patrol
> Devotee of the GWBFNS (Apologies to Shadow, but you gotta have Faith!)
> Herald of the Narratives of the Eventide
> 

I currently subscribe to the theory that the Emmy nomination board
doesn't even watch television, beyond the Big Three networks and
whatever HBO sends them to promote. Yeah, Sopranos and West Wing are
decent television, but the BTVS eps "The Body" and "The Gift"(I could
also argue "Blood Ties" or "Fool For Love" while I'm at it) were among
the best things on the air last season.

I'm still shocked that ER got nominated for ANYTHING, let alone best
series! God, that show hasn't been worth watching since Juliana
Margulies left last season. ER has become little more than a
prime-time soap set in a hospital, and hardly ranking with the best of
what's on this year. Seriously, Buffy deserved the fifth spot more
than ER. Hell, Walker Texas Ranger deserved it more.

Sad but true, 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer' has several strikes against
it;
1) Emmy hates youth. Shows which target young audiences almost never
get nominated.
2) Emmy has never heard of UPN or WB. Those two networks are a
no-man's-land as far as they're concerned.
3) Emmy almost never nominates anything smelling of science-fiction
or fantasy. Apart from the occasional nomination for X-Files, genre
shows generally get the shaft. Evidence; Patrick Stewart turned in
seven solid seasons as Captain Picard on Star Trek TNG. Where's his
Emmy?

Simply put, the Emmy committee has once again chosen to celebrate the
old guard, ignoring the newer shows. If I were Sarah Michelle Gellar,
I'd take a good long look at the Emmy she won for playing Erika Kane's
daughter on All My Children. It's as close as she's gonna get. Which
is a pity, because she and her costars deserve so much more.

Kirayoshi



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