Re: [The Incomplete Pass]

["The Watcher" <thewatcherau@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> to: Dan (Australia)
> from: Dan (LA)
>

Vice Versa :-)

> Well, if you want to read heartbreak fic, I'd suggest hitting a B/F
> archive. Plenty of fuzzies there, too, but a certain number of fics
> that find Faith bitter over that blonde bitch who couldn't understand,
> accept and/or return her love. Probably also a few where Buffy feels
> she gave Faith everything and the other slayer still stabbed her in the
> back.
>

LOL read a few of them, well more than a few actually.. Almost ready to
kill Erlynmyre for leaving me hanging with the finished but SOOO unfinished
Slayers Inc. But this thought wasn't actually about B/F although I'm sure it
could still apply. Problem I see there is Faith. But that's a WHOLE other
can of worms.. but very interesting worms..

> For B/W, it would be interesting, but difficult to do. After all,
> Willow is probably incapable of going into all-out pass mode without
> some strong reciprocal encouragement, and Buffy is so devoted to
> protecting her she'd have a hard time doing a full-on slap-down. In the

Some valid points normally I'd say yes, but a couple of things could turn
the tide. 1. Never say never :-) People will do the strangest and most
uncharacteristic things under the right circumstances e.g would anyone have
thought Willow could do what she did in Bargaining, I'm sure everyone knows
what I mean.. (what the circumstances are for willow in this actual case I'm
not 100% sure, haven't really thought about it) and 2. And you might find
the devotion can work the other way, the old scenario of "if you're gonna do
it with anyone then your best friend is LEAST likely to hurt you" might give
you enough courage to get you to make the move.

> other direction, once Willow herself is gay, she'd have to be nice about
> it (I personally think rather little of Tara, and so would have a hard
> time coming up with reasons for rejection on W's part at all). So I

LOL wrt Tara

But Willow being gay doesn't instantly make her "have to be nice about it"
sure the wig factor in terms of f/f action is gone but that's only ONE
smallish reason for "rejection"

> guess we're looking at 3 seasons' worth of opportunities for Buffy to
> cross a line and freak out a Willow in denial (maybe less, if we
> theorize that "Doppelgangland" at least planted the seed). And I still
> think that that Willow would blame herself for not being able to respond
> more than blame Buffy for the attempt, and would be convinced that being
> a good friend means not letting this come between them. I can see a
> schism coming much more likely from someone pulling away due to their
> own feelings (as in Aeris Jade's recent "Tireseus: the Cycle") than
> someone running from the other girl's passions.

Oh yeah DG planted more than a seed :-)

I can see what you mean but friendship is a funny thing. I guess we are a
slightly biased bunch here and possibly see more in the friendship than
there is, then maybe we dont see as much only Go... I mean Joss knows for
sure.

I have an ex girlfriend who is now "batting for the other team" (hey it
wasn't my fault.. that's my story and I'm sticking to it!!! :-)) Yet just
before we started going out she had a big bust up with her best friend of a
number of years over the same thing. She got hit on and to use your term
"freaked". Freaked being the operative word you're not always exact
rational...

> Still, that's plenty of room for a fic or ten. I guess authors don't
> write that because we're doing a lot of wish-fulfillment and kind of
> imagine that the actual eps are sad enough, with B/W apart. Especially
> at this point in time, where Buffy spent a year on the road to suicide

LOL you'd think a bunch of unrepentant B/W shippers would think outside the
box and read between the lines... :-)

> ("I just don't see the point in going on if everything gets stripped
> away") and then Willow spent a summer in patent agony. I guess it's
> more palatable to write angst and depression without contradicting the
> underlying fundamental belief that the girls do love each other, to
> write sadness based on circumstances and self-doubt (and there is plenty
> of that, here) but still let the reader say, dammit, if she'd only tell
> her, it would all be okay. A total blowup not only wipes out that
> particular B/W's chance for happiness, but the audience's, too. Maybe
> we're just saps, I don't know.

hehehe and BEING DEAD doesn't??? Hey this is Sunnydale if Buffy can die
TWICE and still have a chance with Will then what's a little lovers-to-be
tiff But I know what you mean...

>
> Anyhow, I don't want to do this, but I guess someone should, just for
> variety's sake.
>

Just like the hundreds of unwritten Giles/Dawn fics it doesn't have to be
done. None of them do. But they are all (assuming they are decently written)
interesing to read. And anyway it allows me to exercise my joy at playing
devils advocate.. Hey since this is Buffy maybe literally devil's
Advocate.. Oh Damn I forgot W&H have already filled the position...

> So, nice point, Dan (dammit!)
>

And many nice points to you too Dan.. :-) and at least your Alias didn't
get stolen too.. :-)

> Dan



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