Re: OT: Old Days

["Rod" <myself03@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Dan,

You know, first of all, just wanted to say that I'm loving the way you're
discussing the eps so far...It's so good to know i'm the one that is
revolted with what they're doing to Willow...I thought that turning Spike
into a unintersting copy of Angel was the worst they could do in terms of
character development, but now they're showing they can do a lot worst...And
i didn't even got stated on the way they're damaging the scooby
interaction...Sorry, had to vent...still, your thoughts were dead on...


> Hey, Ro (and anyone else who cares to help)
>
> Since our listdad is being helpful

Doesn't happen very often, gotta take the chance , right : )

I thought I'd ask about something
> else. These lists got started in '99, but lately I've been enjoying
> going through the back archive for BuffyBeta, 'cause for me it's a kick
> to read stuff that was written when the Buffyverse was a much simpler
> place. Fics written in '97 where the author has no clue Angel will ever
> turn evil and such-like.

Quite an interesting concept, i did that a few months ago, but my
exploration dealt more with the later period...You know, world without Tara
(yay ) and Spike as a big INTERESTING vampire...Awww , those were the
days...Have to admit , i really didn't read many Angel related stories or
stuff like that , and i'm not about to start now, mind you, the thought of
Buffy sleeping with a vamp and him not losing his soul holds no appeal to
me...dunno why...

>
> But that's all het, and UCSL is too boyslash-heavy for me.

True , true...I was once crazy enough to think i could find femslash on
UCSL...such a fool...

Now I know
> Faith caused a surge of femslash,

Sad, but true....You know , despite my hatred towards anything B/F related
(and when i say hatred , i mean it in a can't stand to think about the
possibility, the thought of it makes me wanna trow up, how can anyone in
their right mind think they could work kind of hatred...what ?, it's my
opinion :) i have to admit this was the first relationship to get a loyay
fan base...but not the first one around...As strange as it may seem, i think
the first one around was C/W...I think almost everyone that was around
two-two and a half years ago read Kate Bolins C/W series...That was , at
least in my opinion, a huge step towards femslash...

but I've read essays that say there
> was B/W before the slutbomb came to town.

Okay, i've been around for a fairly long time, so this response is based in
what i could see over these past few years...
I'm sorry to disappoint you , but you might be in for a surprise...Until
around the second half half of the third season there were around 6-8
stories about B/W , mostly PWP...The truth is, B/W only started becoming a
REAL thing around the end of the third season...and even so, it only became
strong after the lists (mind you, one of biggest thing i've done in my life
was create these lists, i gotta gloat about it : ) were created, around
season 4( which is ironic, since the other half of the other relationship
i'm not fond of entered the scene in this season...) ...If you take a look
around , most stories centered around the pair date from these moments
on...In fact , that's something that really botters me, to me the three
first seasons , along with the first half of season 4 are fantastic fic
material , just waiting to be explored...That's why i wanted to set up the
review, fic possiblities thing ( which will be explained later on ) on these
past seasons...See if we can get people interested...

So where do I find this
> stuff?? A posting archive would be particularly fun, since I could then
> tell exactly when something was written.

As I said , not really a possibility, but i can try to come up with a
few...I lost my hd quite a few times over the past few years, so this is
mostly my head...

In the ladyslash list there was a Buffy/Willow story, where Buffy gets her
ass hurt , there was also a witch magazine talking about the power of 69 in
witchcraft (don't ask me) ...you could start there...In the Ucsl site try
looking for Falling into her, Her slayer and Louder than words ( i think i'm
making a mistake here , but there are around three )...There's also a series
called the erotic adventures of Spike and Willow, two or three chapters with
W/B stuff ( http://www.dymphna.net/ucsl/archive/laure.html ) ...There's a
story called Fallen Angels, it's X/A, i think, but there's a chapter with
W/B content...Don't know where to find...There's Bizarre love triangle, with
B/W , by Janet Leigh, i think...Needless to say, they all are mostly sex
based...

For non-sex there's Dark Promise...it only hinted at W/B and i don't think
it is going to be finished, but here's the addy :
http://www.geocities.com/sbowers04/index.htm

Also, take a look at this site...the story isn't very old, but it doesn't
specify the time period.It's the Into the fire arc...Quite a good read...
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8994/

Aside from that, the first loving B/W story i found ( and believe me, I
looked) was Spin , Spinning...from Pink Rabbit...and THAT was worth the
wait...After that came Pat with the Two of a kind series, Janine with And it
all became clear, Badbard with A wiccan gets the wiggins , Angela with her
touching one pieces and then the rest was history...

>
> A sincere thanks in advance for anyone who can help me with this,

Hope it helped.Once again, that's only what i could remember....If you have
more lucky, please let me know..

> Dan

Ro, one who is trying to figure out a way to get people to write more fics
based on the earlier seasons....