re: re: Aeris's fic, Willow's addiction--includes vague talk of SPOILERS

[aerisjade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

> >I have a serious problem with the whole "Willow addicted to dark magic"
> thing
> 
> Well, I can't say I much enjoyed making her so pathetic, and I still
> feel the whole concept of the gang suddenly falling apart this year, for
> IMO no good reason, is damn silly.

Exactly. Everything that's happening seems surreal in the face of the
Buffy verse that we've known so far. 

> 
> That said, however, I did appreciate what Marti seemed to be trying to
> say with "Wrecked". Namely that what Willow's dream in "Restless" meant
> was that she was hiding behind the magic (her "costume") because she
> felt Tara wouldn't love her without it (Oz's "I tried to warn you" to
> Tara in the dream).

I can see that, but it still seems like a last attempt at trying to
salvage an obviously bad storyline. No matter the reason, I just can't see
someone who spends so much time trying to be the good one, going sour over
something she's trying to learn so well.

> 
> Buffy: You don't need magic to be special.
> 
> Willow: Don't I? I mean, who was I, Buffy? Just?some girl. Tara
> didn't even know that girl.
> 
> Buffy: You are more than 'some girl'.
> 

> If the point of the "magic addiction" was to admit that giving the
> subsidiary characters superpowers was a substitute for good writing (as
> the doctor's speech in "Norrmal Again" implies) and to move the focus
> back from Willow's witchiness to just plain Willow, then overall, I
> applaud that. Despite the fact I liked seeing her work the mojo as much
> as anyone (not to mention kicking some serious hell-god ass).


> Especially if the point is that Willow needs to stop hiding behind her
> current persona, and be who she truly is. And if that means that she
> has to "leave Tara's room, where she's safe" as in the "Restless" dream,
> and face the truth, and if that presages a shift her affections from
> Tara to Buffy, I am entirely for that, of course. A storyline where
> Willow realizes that her affair with Tara is a way of avoiding the
> difficulty of admitting her love for Buffy would fulfill my wildest
> dreams. If Tara=magic=crutch, I'm more than willing to toss the mojo so
> Will can go freely to Buffy.
> 

After the event's in the season premiere I have serious problems saying that Willow doesn't know that she's in love with Buffy. No matter how close their friendship was Willow never would have brought Buffy back. Instead she was so torn up over the woman she loved dying that she manifested a fantasy where Buffy was trapped in hell and that Willow had to play the knight in white armor and rescue her. 

Then in the very next episode, we have Willow wanting Buffy to recognize what she did for her. She wanted Buffy to fall over her like a damsel just rescued from the evil dragon, and bestow her heart to her brave rescuer. That alone tells the audiene, at least IMO, that Willow fully recognizes her feelings for Buffy and is continuously trying to be the one to come to the rescue in order to gain the affections that she believes that she's not worthy of. 

< Crawls back under the rock she came from >


> Despite the fact that I felt "Wrecked" was extremely bad television, and
> the poor mechanics of the addiction storyline, I really liked what I
> felt Marti was trying to say about Willow's relationships and choices,
> so I can forgive all of that.

The relationships is what I had the most trouble with. Willow treats Dawn
like a sister/daughter. Yet she drags to teen to Racks. If it had been true to
character she would've taken Dawn home first, or at least put her in a cab, or maybe even had her call someone to get her. But she would not have taken her
into such a bad/dangerous atmoisphere. 

Then there was Buffy walking away from Willow. Yes I understand that her sister was injuried, but it wasn't mortal, and Spike while he isn't trust worthy couldn't hurt Dawn and with his wanting to get in ' Good ' with Buffy would have taken her immediatly to the ER. Willow on the other hand was right on that line of going evil or giving up magic, and we're supposed to believe that Buffy would have not only pushed her down but just walked away from her if Spike hadn't told her to go to her? 


> 
> Having said all THAT?
> 
> Without going into details of spoilers, which I myself am trying to
> avoid and have therefore a necessarily incomplete knowledge of, from
> what little I know, it seems like whatever comes next in Buffy and
> Willow's lives will be brought on by external events (the spoilers), NOT
> internal development of the characters. In which case, the good that I
> found in the addiction storyline is invalidated, and I then
> wholeheartedly concur with your anger at it.
> 
> I guess I ought to clarify this with the use of
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> In other words, while I'm all for B/W, I'm going to be real disappointed
> if it's not because Willow realizes she was using Tara to hide from
> Buffy, but because Tara dies. And don't even get me started on the
> Spike rumors.
> 
> I would much prefer that B/W choose each other out of love, rather than
> grief/pain-which would basically mean that Tara's corpse (and Spike's
> actions) will always be in the room with them. 
> 
> NO SPOILERS IN REPLY, PLEASE
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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Aeris Jade Orion

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