OT: Re: Spike and Birthdays

["kbrezovnik" <kbrezovnik@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dan, how do you know that her birthday in A New Man was on Thursday? I chec=
ked the transcript, but it doesn't mention any specific day.
And since I'm in the asking mode, here's a couple of more questions:
Which month is Buffy's birthday?
Which month did Joyce die and and which month did Buffy?
How long was Buffy dead?
Does Dawn have a middle name?
Was there another Slayer called after Buffy died the second time?
Kristjan


--- In buffywantswillow@y..., danspector@w... wrote:
> Jolie,
> 
> Yeah. Spike knows what happened in "Innocence" and "A New Man", but I
> don't think he associates them with Buffy's birthday (which at the
> time he didn't know or care when it was).
> 
> Actually, Angelus ducks the question of how he lost that pesky soul when
> Dru asks him in "Innocence" (I guess he didn't want to admit he'd made
> love to a Slayer), so Spike doesn't even know about the sex in
> "Surprise", much less that it was a "birthday present". And Giles
> doesn't become a demon until two days after Buffy's birthday (first the
> party, then a bad day of confrontations with Maggie and Ethan, and then
> demony things), so even if Spike knew that Thursday was her birthday, I
> doubt he'd connect Giles's growing a tail on Saturday with it.
> 
> It's possible he might have realized a birthday party was going on in
> "Blood Ties" while he was lurking outside ("I wasn't lurking, I was
> standing about. It's an entirely different vibe." Oh, sorry, Willie),
> but neither he nor anyone else refer to it in his scenes.
> 
> And I don't personally believe that Buffy is drawn to the undead, or
> anything. She loved Angel mainly for his humanity, not his fangs.
> After that she sought out men, not vamps, and her problems with Parker,
> Riley and Ben were never of the "if he's got a pulse, it just doesn't
> feel right" variety. Spike ruffled Riley by claiming Buffy needed "some
> monster in her man", but he was trying to vex Riley (and reassure
> himself), not uncover the inner truth of Buffy.
> 
> Yes, Buffy preferred Angel to Riley, but that was about the guys, not
> "vamps over humans". If she thought vampire sex was the ultimate high,
> she wouldn't have been so repulsed by Riley's visiting the vamp
> bordello. Nor would she have been ecstatic when Angel became human in
> "I Will Remember You".
> 
> Ironically, Spike's vampirism has helped him shag Buffy, but not in the
> "vampires get you hot" way he hopes for. Because he's a vampire, Buffy
> felt no compunction about using him to scratch her itch, make her
> "feel", without caring about him. At least until Riley made her realize
> she deserved something better. And there was probably a bit of
> Angel-nostalgia in there--I bet she closed her eyes sometimes and
> imagined that the cold body against hers was a very different vamp's.
> You'll note that now that Buffy wants something real in her life, she
> shows no desire for Spike or anyone else who enjoys blood (with or
> without Wheet-a-Bix crumbled in it).
> 
> JMO, 
> 
> Dan
> 
> PS--your comments on "Forgiving" were mostly vague, but still, since
> it's been less than a week, you should use Spoiler Space for that.
> Thanks.