Re: Thoughts on 'Selfless' SPOILERS

["Jolie" <slyfox_kitkat@xxxxxxxxx>]

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> >First off, severely NOT liking Willow going all black eyed girl 
again and
> >copping a 'tude. Not a good thing at all. It's just proving 
that with
> >provocation she can be nasty. Nope, not liking that AT ALL.
> 
> I remeber Whedon stating that Tara was killed because that was the 
only way 
> Willow would go all BMW. Seeing her get black magicky over a 
spider beast 
> was weird, unless I missed seeing invisible Tara on the screen and 
she died.

Willow was tapping into her magics. This is the first time we 
really saw her do this. Maybe the black eyed thing is just apart of 
it. It was scary, and she coped a tude, but isntantly, after the 
spider was gone, she apologized, knowing what she did, coping the 
tude, was wrong.

> >And Buffy. What the hell was up with Buffy? Ok yes, I know 
she's the
> >Slayer, and she's built and born to slay demons. But could she 
not look 
> >atleast a little upset about having to kill one of her friends? 
No, I don't
> >agree with Xander's statement that Anya is one of Buffy's best 
friends.
> >Because honestly, they've never really developed their 
relationship to a 
> >point where I would buy into that phrasing. But she was a 
friend, even
> >though not of the best variety, so Buffy should have felt some 
remorse at
> >what she was setting out to do. But nope, in fact, after she 
plunged the
> >sword into Anya's chest I could have sworn I saw her smirk a tiny 
bit. 
> >What
> >was up with that? I know alot of rumble on the boards is that 
Buffy 
> >herself
> >is going bad. I don't know if this episode sets the path for 
that, but it
> >was rather strange.

Anya chose to become a demon again. And she killed 12 boys, just 
for a joke on a girl. That happens IRL all the time. I am actually 
thanking the goddess for no real vengance demons cause we'd have a 
lot of dead boys. She killed, or rather had the boys killed. She 
was covered in blood and at first held remorse, but got over it, 
till the end, that is. A lot of speculation of Buffy going bad is 
because its possibly SMG's last season as Buffy. But rumor has it, 
most of the cast(besides SMG and Emma) have signed up for another 
season after this one. BUt that is all rumors, and SMG is actually 
possible fact, considering how well Scooby Doo did and they are 
doing a sequel, and rumor has it, a third one as well...

> Buffy's little speech was almost what Faith said back in season 
3. And i 
> seem to remember Buffy saying something like "we aren't the law, 
we up hold 
> it." (or somethign to that effect.

Yes, it did resemble Faith's speech, but remember FAITH KILLED A 
MAN, accidentally, but she still killed him. Buffy, Xander, and 
Dawn are the only cast members who HAVEN'T KILLED A HUMAN! Faith 
thought she was above the law, and buffy knows that isn't true, that 
they have to uphold the human law. But as someone else said, they 
are Judge, Jury and Executionare(sp) when it comes to the demon 
realm. It's who they are. We've never truly learned the origins of 
the Slayer, how she came about, where she gets her strength from. 
All we know is that it started back with the Primal Slayer. That is 
all we know of the slayer...that she is a killer, a killer of 
demons, as Dracula said. That is her job, to protect mankind, or 
did everyone seem to forget that bit of information..

> Also, i know Buffy pointed out that there was no one who could 
give her all 
> the answers, etc. But isn't that Giles job? To watch over her 
adn guide 
> her through her slayer trials? WHen is ASH showing back up??

Giles isn't there anymore. He left, for good out of his own 
discretion. She has her instincts to follow, what her heart says. 
And I think Buffy did show some kind of remorse when she had to kill 
Anya. At least Xander didn't have to do it, like she had to kill 
Angel. Does everyone seem to forget the hell Buffy wenet through 
with Angelus, and that entire time, no matter what she still loved 
him. She loved him even though he killed Ms. Calender and her class 
mates, and try to destroy the world, she still loved the fucking 
bastard, and the only way to save the world was to kill him, shove a 
sword straight threw his heart, and watched him get sucked into 
hell. Well jeez, Anya got off pretty lucky cause well she didn't 
try to destroy the world, she only killed a few frat boys, world be 
praised of Anya. NO she was wrong, no matter how much I like Anya's 
human character, she was still a demon, she still caused the deaths 
of 12 innocent guys, ok that innocent shit can be stretched, but 
they didn't deserve to die.


> One thing i liked about the ep (about the only thing) was Anya. 
(well 
> right up until that last scene with Xander). I loved seeing her 
as Aud :) 
> And when she was talking with Halfrek during the Revolution was 
just to 
> adorable LOL!!!!
> 
> -Will
> 
> who almost liked the episode, but then Buffy opened her mouth.

Did you happen to see what Willow was wearing and how she acted. 
She felt sorry for Anya and even called D'Hoffryn. She couldn't 
even tell them at first that it was anya, because she wanted to help 
anya...
That's my piece
Jol