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Re: Re: FIC: 01Divergence: Love, the Abnormally Weird Kind (Pat Kelly)



Here, Here.
 
Though in my opinion . . .
 
even if you have a problem with someone who ISN'T a mod, has a reputation on the list, anything in this line should be done offlist. Doing to a mod is just upping an already intolerable offense.
 
-Daenerys
----- Original Message -----
From: misslurker
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~ Re: FIC: 01Divergence: Love, the Abnormally Weird Kind (Pat Kelly)

I for one have seen it onlist before and was not offended.  Pat Kelly
portrays the pairing brilliantly and it is neither disgusting nor
offensive.  He makes plausable situations for this pairing to be
believable. This, however is my opinion.  The way it's written and
the history that Pat makes up, by the end of the fic they're not even
sisters anymore.  But hey,  you wouldn't know that because YOU
HAVEN'T EVEN READ IT! 

I am MAJORLY offended that you would speak to Kimber, or any other
MOD for that fact, this way.  This email is rude and offensive and
the last person who should ever be dressed down on list is a
moderator. . .let alone Kimber who has in the past, kept this group
going when it seemed like no one was interested anymore, has been a
key figure since the first months of the group back in 1999, has
written fiction that no one even to this day is worthy of holding a
candle to.  Based on reputation alone, Kimber SHOULD NOT be spoken to
this way.  If it seems like I'm blowing this out of proportion, well,
I probably am.  Only because it's so offensive the way people think
they can talk to people.  In society all the way down the line, we
take our elders for granted, scold them like children and don't
respect the roads they paved so that we could have a smooth path to
walk without getting pebbles in our shoes.

IMHO, not only do you speak down to Kimber as if you were superior,
as if that wasn't enought, you refer to message numbers just to drive
your point home.  What is your point HD?  Trying to prove to the list
that you know the list rules better than the person who put them in
place?  Last time I looked, the list isn't congress, you're not the
speaker of the house for all the members and Kimber isn't the
errant 'president' who needs to be impeached and taught a lesson.

If you or anyone else has a problem with something, why don't you
address it privately?  Anything else, IMHO, is going to be taken as
arrogance.  Last time I looked the grand standing, arrogance, back
handed compliments, nitpicking and 'I better and more superior than
you' position was filled . . . . .then retired from. . . . .then
filled again (this time with 40% more superiority in every email!)

Show some respect.  The mods have earned it.  Especially Kimber.

misslurker




--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "hd_genscher"
<HD.Genscher@u...> wrote:
> --- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kimber" <kacoe@c...>
wrote:
> > Disclaimer:  Pat owns nothing, Joss is god.  Mutant Enemy rules
the
> > universe, he's just playing in it.
> >
> >
> > Divergence: Love, the Abnormally Weird Kind
> --snip--
>
> Hi Kimber,
>
> in my opinion your post (and its successor) should have contained a
> clear warning, in both the subject line and in a header.
>
> But it doesn't even have an appropriate header - as required by the
> list rules for every fic - and it doesn't contain a pairing
> specification, warning a potential reader against the OT pairing
> portrayed in the fic. Especially considering this (B/D) pairing!
>
> I'm aware that the post itself is allowed by our list rules,
> considering the fact that Buffy and Willow are in it, and Pat Kelly
> having posted B/W before.
>
> A little reminder: The latest rulings on this topic were messages
> 25901 (by Quindo Ma), 25907, 25909 (by Dan) and 25925 (by you!).
>
> Why do I write this? Well, I didn't read it, because I
somehow "felt"
> that it was OT, but I know of people who did, and who were *majorly*
> offended by it.
>
> We all make mistakes, but I hope that such a capital disregard of
the
> rules doesn't happen again, especially not by a moderator.
>
> Best regards,
>
>     HD Genscher



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