Re: Kind of an OT post and sort of a ramble

["ebailey140" <ebailey140@xxxxxxx>]

--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Robert Head 
<frank_8281@y...> wrote:
> Ok, first apologies for the OT, but I've been thinking about this 
for a while now and I'd really like to here other opinions.

Anything Buffy related isn't really off topic, IMO.  I'm always 
looking for good fic, even if it isn't neccessarily B/W.  Hell, I 
wrote a Harmony ficlet just before I started the In Rome series.  
>  
> Second, I've been following... well, let's just say quite a few 
BTVS virtual seasons. Some of them are pretty good some of them 
suck, and a couple make me wonder if Joss did'nt have Season eight 
all mapped out and decide to post it on the Web.

Hmm...  Which would be those couple?  Haven't been too impressed 
with the ones I've seen, so far, but I'd love to see a good one.  Of 
course, I'd be bringing my own prejudices to it, like my attitude 
towards Willow having a Rebound Girl/Substitute For The Real 
Thing  :)

> Now most of these have one thing in common, they like to make 
Buffy miserable. Except of course for the one that dosen't have her 
in it AT ALL! Not saying any names, so don't ask. There's a few more 
that don't make Buffy unhappy all the time, just part of the time. 
Mostly because of what she percieves as failures, both from her time 
in Sunnydale and after.

Which isn't where the characters were going after Chosen.  The whole 
point was they, especially Buffy, truly came of age.  She's dealt 
with the personal demons and grew into the leadership role Giles 
always said she would.  She's now at a point where she can be in 
charge of not just her little group, but the much larger, worldwide, 
duties of a new, reformed, 21st Century Watchers Council.  She 
delegates a lot, of course, to her old core gang, because they've 
grown into mature responsible people, themselves.  There's plenty to 
explore, since they changed the world in Chosen.  They can build a 
world instead of just reacting to the immediate threats, now.  

> Now here's the thing that's been bugging me, only ONE of these 
virtual series (At least of the ones that I've seen, not that I've 
seen all of them I'm sure.) has any sort of 'shipper bias. This is 
where the OT part comes in, It's B/G! (Shudder! Sorry if I've 
offended any one.)

I wouldn't mind that, really, if it's one of the good ones.  I've 
read some good B/G stories, the idea behind them being a view that 
the central relationship of the series is between the Slayer and 
Watcher.  ASH has a strong female fan base, after all, so that's to 
be expected.  Sure, there's the age difference, but her two main 
romances have been with guys a LOT older than Ripper  :)  

I suppose it all comes down to what one considers the show's core 
central relationship, what it's all actually about, what drives the 
series.  For some, it's the Slayer/Watcher thing.  Others see it as 
about the Slayer and her devoted witchy hacker best friend.  Still 
others think it's about the Slayer and the OTHER best friend, the 
guy who, without benefit of powers or special training, has always 
come through for her.  Then, of course, there are the Bangles, and 
the Spuffies.  And every one of them can make the arguement that 
their's is the core story that drives the Buffyverse.  

I like that.  I like that these characters and stories are so 
multilayered that there can be so many different points of view 
about it.  
>  
> The thing is, the eps themselves are really good and Buffy is well 
written and, with a few exceptions, in character and fairly happy. 
Anyway this got me to thinking 'How come there are no <and if there 
are some one send the addys please, cause I'd really like to see 
one> virtual seasons with a B/W slant! Cause god knows our Slayer 
could be a lot happier with her Red Witch than with any body else.

I suppose because we haven't taken a shot at it  :)

One problem with doing these things while Angel is still on is that 
show can throw a virtual Season 8 off.  Have you put Buffy in 
Cleveland?  Oops, she's living in Rome.  Have the Scoobies settled 
anywhere?  Oops, they're all over the place, looking for Slayers.  
Of course, that doesn't mean their home base isn't in the same city, 
maybe even a really big house that everyone lives in when they're 
not off on a mission somewhere.  

Or, you could just say Andrew's giving misinformation about 
everyone's whereabouts and activities, to throw Wolfram & Hart off 
the scent.  They could all be in Anaheim or something, waiting for 
the opportunity to take the Evil Law Firm down.  "Buffy, you just 
saved the world and closed the Hellmouth.  What are you going to do, 
now?"  "I'm going to Disneyland!"  Damn, wish I'd thought of that 
before I put everyone in Rome...  Give them a really huge house by 
the beach, fun in the sun...  :)
>  
> Once again, sorry for the OT, Thanks for listening to my 
craziness, B.
>  
> BTW, liking the 'In Rome' series E, And as far as not knowing it 
WAS a series when you started, I can relate. B.

Thanks.  And yeah, these things sometimes take a life of their 
own  :)

E



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Buffy:  "I kinda love you."
                     'Choices'

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