Posting ideas to the list is ALWAYS welcome. It's how I first met Shadow, Pat, Jen, Janine, Sammy, Fool, Aly etc etc..... and how other writers have come to know... and respect each other. Back when I was a list member.... You´re not anymore ? Ahhh.come back : ) Rod encouraged us to hold conversations on list. Well, just so we´re clear on this , he still does...he is even sad to see so little of it going on....We´re unconventional shippers....we´re supposed to discuss the possibilities and moments to death ...open up a bottle of wine everytime they're in the same scene and stuff like that...I know that most of the people are here more for the femslash factor than anything else , that would rather talk about Faith/Buffy , Will/Tara cause they're more "on your face" , but there has to be at least a few that really like Buffy/Willow and has seem possibilities on the eps...I mean was i the only one who watched Wellcome to the Hellmouth, or saw the way that Buffy was all jealous in I robot , you Jane , thought that Buffy Should teach Willow how to play doctor in Killed by death and came up with quite a few different ways for Will asking Buffy out for Xander in The witch ( and how Buffy would react when she saw the real date...) .. Okay, i rambled enough...i just realized that we may be the only shipper group that lets stuff like that go unnoticed...SHAME ON US : )See if anybody takes the hint... What i'm saying is, all kind of talks are encouraged and since we don't talk about the couple we talk about everything else... I think that the fact that we feel comfortable talking about everything gives us a head start , a kind of homey feeling....But we always must remember that because of this sometimes things go bad and we get on bad terms,but that happens in the best families....the only thing we can not let happen is to allow the situation to come to that point when we loose respect for one another.Okay...that was just to remind people that we're all part of a pretty open society, and that to keep it like that we sometimes have to know that there are limits....I don't even know why i'm saying this, nobody here ever crosses the line, i guess i just like to keep it fresh ... We're a FAMILY here..... If you insist on being rude, do it on your own time and off list...... it's none of my business or anyone elses what goes on in your own private email correspondance. Okay , i'm gonna have to disagree with Kim in this one...I read Steven's message and while i think that he may have chosen the wrong words to express himself he was not rude...I think he was only trying to encourage the guy...Maybe it would have been taken more lightly had it been filled with smiley faces, but still, i don't think that he was being rude, nor do i think that it was ever his intention to offend anyone...Also, i think he was right in saying that noone would say anything if the story sucked (which is not the case) and not because we're a bunch of false people, but because when you have nothing nice to say then you just stay quiet, it shows we respect that person... (at least that's what i like to think...of course i stay quiet due to the lack of time, but still...) as for the parental coment, I know for a fact that he wasn't trying to take over our positions or anything like that : )...That is just something parents, grandparents and such always like to say...Doesn't matter the language... It is however, my business when a list member decides to go parental. Only I can do that. Ahhhhh....i feel so left out....Nobody remembers the father figure.... : ( Seeing as Rod has been MIA since December.... The girl i was supposed to spend the rest of my life with broke up with me; i moved out of my house for good and had my room ,house,mother and computer taken over by a pevert that apparently has used my e-mail to subscribe to every porn list on the planet and used all the blank cds i had to put porn and episode from every show he can find ( Fi, i know you'll read this...me aguarde...); i'm monitoring a few students at med-school , kind of a TA; I'm spending A LOT of time studying ( people don't seem to put much faith in dumb doctors...i wonder why...); my grandmother just had two more heart attacks in less than a month and her already precarious heath got even worst in the past few months, even more so now that she lost her second son and was only told that after the funeral( i think it's sort of ironic, all the Jesus thing going on and my uncle dies...It's amazing, he was in and out off hospitals every month, he had a heart condition and was very overweight , but he always got out ...i 'm still getting used to the fact that this time he didn't ....Since my father died he's being like a father to me , and he end up dying in the same day that my father did...Kind of like dad came to take him...it's amazing how fast i became so religious...)............Anyway, enough with the bad stuff, just pick one of then and explain my absence...although...has it been really since december ? Time flies when you're NOT having fun .... I'm all you've got.. take it or leave it. I'd expect you and everyone else to be mindful about the WELCOMENESS of OT convos, posting about stories, talking about episodes and such. In no way do I run a tight ship.. as a matter of fact, Once again I disagree...I don't think this list relies much on the moderators...We're only two and that's not all we have...We also have some fantastic regulars and some not so regular members that know how to keep the lists going...Everybody here that gets involved with the lists is part of what we've got....Those who step up and help the newbies, the ones that post fics or comments, the ones that participate in the lists one way or another are all kind of moderators, even it it's not there next to their names...To me, figures like Sam, Alex, Pat, Quin or Shadow, to name a few, have as much authority here as the two of us...and not because they post or used to post fics, but because they have been here long enough to know how things should be done if we're not here....I know that sounded idealistic, but to me, at least when it comes to these two lists, the title of list owner is more of a in joke , a reference, the person to blame when things get out of hand, something that is next to my name when i get the members list, than a position or some power...I went to military school, i don't need any more of that crap... As for the OT stuff...it was always this way, those who don't like it , unsub... I've been pretty absent as of late due to real life shit....... but that doesn't mean I don't see what's going on and read the stories posted and notice when it looks like feathers are getting ruffled. I'm on the same boat...I may not be here , but i always know what is going on...I spent a lot of time trying to get a few friends to enjoy the couple, and the lists, now instead of me going off about the lists during lunch they do...I even get copies of fics to read at "work"...(word of advice...keep angelina fics away during work hours, peoople think you're crazy when you start laughing...) No one will tell if a story sucks???? I beg to differ... I've been told I suck on many occasions.... and I've also been the target of hate mail and a wonderful little website dedicated to the 'shit writers of the buffyverse'.........I find that when you request honest criticizm and comments, you receive them. And even when you don't request them sometime you get them. You don't know how many emails I've gotten OFF LIST with comments, criticism, praise, drop dead you suck, you're a hack, blah blah blah ad nauseum. I even stopped writing for a while over that whole "bad buffy fic" thing and notice I haven't posted anything in a while either... so... I'm still a bit tattered and torn over that one......... Bottom line is that this list is respectful enough of each other that those comments are reserved privately... if at all necessary... I don't feel qualified to talk about this since i'm not really a writer myself, but i believe i said it before and i will say it again...WE DON'T ALLOW FLAMES...If an author is being flamed by someone on this list, please let me know...i know i most likely won't be able to stop it, but i'll try...The no flaming thing was for quite awhile one of our only rules and nowadays it still is the most important one...As for the writers...if you're happy with what you wrote then f*** everybody else, in the end you won't be the only one to like it...Sometimes it's not about the story, it's just about taste, not everyone likes the same kind of thing... I hate it when things like this happen... cause then I have to get all parental... and I'm the only one who has that right. Don't say that , Bill or Heather's (where IS that girl?) kids might get the wrong ideas... : ) I'm not gonna be like other list owners and just unsub people who piss me off... variety is the spice of life after all... but I am getting pretty tired of the mini tirades and nasty comments as of late from the peanut gallery..... I don't think there are a lot of then , in fact, i can only think of a couple of real problems, it's just that they seem to stir things up.... This has always been a friendly list and a place of solace for people... It still is... please don't anyone change that and make me go all 'List Moderator" on you. Again, i don't think it's even an issue... I now return you to your regularly scheduled fanfic, OT discussions, idea flinging and jungle juice consumption While we're at it, am I the only one that has read a 1000 times WHITHER THOU GOEST... and is still waiting for an update? Gosh, i need more of that...That's a masterpiece.....in fact i need a lot from quite a few authors...Bunch of lazy people : ) ... Oh, and Shadow,....you like jungle juice more than me................why don't you just kill me now...I'm hurt...*sniff,sniff*.And don't put the word small near my name(that small countries search comment) I'm a guy....we don't like that ..Geeeezzz....They never learn.... Well, it's almost 2 in the morning i'm off to bed...i'm sleeping in my homey bed...i'm all giddy...If only i didn't have to wake at 5:30...Well, at least i still have till friday... Night ,night...