Dawn : Humm, the most important thing inBuffy's
life was just put aside.....Move over girl, it's Spike season's
now....Amazing, last season Buffy dropped her friends and went for her sister,
this season she drops the sister and goes for the vamp....Why those people
still want to be around her is beyond me...Still, her Afterlife behavior
wasn't the best...I mean, we're talking about the girl that once tried to
bring a zombie Joyce back to life ....Oh, and we can't forget, Willow mayhave
showed the book, but Spike was the one who took her there....Now they're all
self-righteous...Funny that....Plus, when the whole Willow thing goes down,
she'll
completely forget that Will took care ofher
during the summer her sister was kind of dead...
Now this I don't get. Your angry her Mother's
Illness & Dawn's saftey took priority over everything else in Buffy's
life last year.
OH WHAT A BITCH! I mean how Dare she love her mother &
sister more than her her friends WHAT NERVE! And now to make matters
worse she's able to talk to Spike. What a slut!
Giles: The talk with Buffy was fantastic,
very fatherly...I mean, he hasn't done much, he IS leaving after all, notmuch
to do except say goodbye, but he still managed to piss me off....Okay,
question to everyone watching Bargaining ...did you see that scene from
Flooded coming ? Cause i really didn't...Their goodbye in the first two eps
was so heartfelt, so touching....She was the last one he hugged, the one with
the long goodbye, and still....I expected more of their relationship....I
expected more of him....He thought that calling her names would help her in
anyway ? Is that it ? Cause he really should know better.....I'm not saying
that he wasn't right in his words, but the way he said it....
And he expected a WHOLE lot more from Willow. He
expected her to be alot more responseable. He of all people knows the cost of
Black Magic first hand. He's got blood on his hands because of it. He had
every right to say everything he said to her. She is a rank ametour. When
comes to the forces of magic.
Buffy : I hate her....I mean it...I knoweveryone
is going around saying bad things about Willow and all, but she is the one
that really pissed me of so far....I mean, she was in heaven, that's good, but
not everything was great.....Was i the only one that heard what those demons
said they would do to the girls when she arrived ? Was i the only one that saw
they destroying the town ? Or Buffybot , for that matter ? I mean, the only
thing standing between Sunnydale and destruction up to that moment was the
robot, they all knew that ( cemetery scene , anyone) and now the bot had been
destroyed...How well can you be in a situaton like that ....Yeah, she wasin
heaven, but her friends, her so called family was about to enter hell, and it
was her place to take them out of it....That's what heroes do...They put other
people's life and happiness before their own, they sacrifice themselves....SHE
is the hero, they are the ones that help her, not the other way...SHE hasthe
abilities, they only have their hearts...I know that she doesn't have to be
happy, but come on....Besides, Willow took her out of hell, that may not have
been the place she was in, but that was the place their friends thought she
was....When they slept they didn't imagine her in a heavenly kind of place,
they didn't imagine her being happy, they pictured her in hell, being tortured
by hundreds of demons...And after five years in the mouth of hell, who
wouldn't ? And what's this whole "the only person i can stand to be around is
a neutered vampire "thing ? Why ? Because he wasn't envoloved ? Well, neither
were Dawn nor Giles ...Because he loves her and all? Well, last i heard, they
all did...Because he also died and came back in a coffin ? Well, then i think
she should become friends with the entire vamp population of Sunnydale....They
all went trhough that, and guess what ? They were dead...The coffin thing,
not that scary when you don't need the air, the being dead thing ? She spent
months dead, he spent hours...Or maybe he was in heaven too, but we never
found out....Maybe that is it...Let's be realistic here...If you want herto
boink Spike then let her, but to try to pull the "oh, because they have so
much in common " is just going too far....
Ok lets see she's in heaven. Her Job Is done her
destiny fulfilled. And Then BAM your in your coffin struggelingfor
breath. Struggling to claw your way out. No thats not trauma. And Then
when you do get out you find a place that looks & sounds like hell. You
see yourself torn in two by demons on motercycles. You've come back from the
dead but you think you have been to hell. When you do finally except thatyou
are back wether you like it or not. You find out that it was your "friends".
that did this too you. Because they thought you. THE CHOSEN WARRIOR OF THE
POWERS THAT BE WAS IN HELL! As if the powers would ever allow the soul of
their slayer to be tortured in hell for eternity. I DON"T THINK SO! And you
can't tell your friends the amout of pain they have caused you because it
would hurt them. And you Can't tell Giles Because you heard the argument
he had with Wilow about the spell And even you no how angry he would if he
knew the damage that was done too you. You can't talk to Dawn because sheis
your LITTLE SISTER. And it's ot right to put that kind of burden on her. And
on top of everything else. Willow wants your undying gratitude for "SAVING"
you from hell. And everyone else wants you to be happy go lucky Buffy.
Basically they all want something from her. And she's struggling to give
everyone what they want from her. But Spike Isn't asking anything from her. He
dosen't have expectaions of her. As he made clear during his scene with her in
the gift. He has no illusions anymore when it comes to his relationship with
her. So yes now there is a real friendship developing between them. Because
she needs to talk. And he is willing to
listen.
Willow: Can i just say , i don't have any opinion
really formed on her so far....I mean, i didn't really like her final words
for Giles during the kitchen scene, but still.....It's pretty clear her
character is going to change quite a lot this year, and not in a good way, but
I think everyone in here already figured she is going to be one of the big
bads this season, if not THE big bad, and i can't help feeling sorry for
that....No, i'm not going to start a discussion about how much better Willow
was in the previous seasons mainly because i still think of her as that same
character that she was back in the first three seasons (unlike Spike, that i
think is another character played by the same actor and with the same name)
...she has changed, not always for the best, but changed nonetheless...But
despite all these changes she still managed to retain a smal part of that
original Willow, that part that made me fall in love with the character in the
first palce....And that's why i'm having a really hard time buying the evil
Willow arc....Not only because of what it will do to B/W , not only because of
what it will do to the group, but what it will do to the character herself...I
know there are lot of people that have already defined Willow as bad after her
actions this season, but so far i just don't see it....I mean, she killed
Bambi's mother: unless you're a vegetarian, you shouldn't talk....She used a
dark spell to bring Buffy back : if you looked at her eyes while she tried to
convince Xander you'd see that she REALLY believed that her friend was
suffering in hell...She wanted some kind of recognition : she is human, to
want some part of recognation on a job well done is part of our nature...Plus,
she just saved the soul of that very person that saved her life hundreds of
times before, she wanted Buffy to see that, wanted Buffy to see that , given
the chance, she would do anything for the slayer too....Her talk with Giles,
she needed approval and instead got hurful words, she wanted him to be happy
for her gronwt and he goes and says that, so she goes and responds in
kind...Despite of it all , Willow still thought she was doing the right thing,
and a part of her was....But she was not dark....never was, but they're taking
her down that path...Not now, but once she realizes that everybody turned
their back on her she will...And the thing is, by the end of the day Buffy
will be the main responsible for that...It was pretty clear in the training
room scene that Buffy was the only one that would have the power to make
Willow realize where she is going, and it was also clear that the slayer won't
make any effort, at least not until it's too late, i mean, as long as shecan
blame someone for her condition right now, she's gonna grab onto that, and
Willow is the chosen one this time...Because of that Willow will end up
walking down a road that has no way back , at least not an easy one,
she'll change everything we ever knew about her character....I mean,
being reckless is one thing, being evil is quite another....And by the end end
of the day everything will have changed, she may even go back to the good
guys, but her character will be tainted forever...
The reason people are upset about the deer. Is because she
violated wiccan beliefs. Wicca is about respecting & honoring
nature.
Wicca would NEVER call for a blood sacrifice. So by doing
that she has willingly gone against the goddess she claims to worship. What
willow has yet to learn is Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you
should. There is know such thing as doing the wrong thing for the right
reason. You're actions have consequences And Will has a price to pay
karmacaly for bringing
back from the dead. Against the laws of nature that all
wiccans uphold.
Just my opinion,
James