Re: Re: :Memo: The State Of The Lists -- The (Honest) Coward's Reply

["angel ruiz" <montevallo64@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all.

I just wanted to say that i agree with most of you , if you want to read one thing you have a list for it. I don't think it would be a good idea to jioin the two lists together, just for that reason. And i agree that some people only get one response to their fic but you can't do anything about that. I am happy about any feedback  that i get, and if ithat one response disses me then I learned something. And for those who don't post stories but do write response, i want to thank you. It means a lot to me that people actually respond to my stories, let alone read them.

-Angel

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I agree with you guys, if you want to read a certain thing

>From: "C S Armitage"

>Reply-To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>To:

>Subject: ::BuffyWantsWillow:: Re: :Memo: The State Of The Lists -- The (Honest) Coward's Reply

>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:15:08 +0100

>

>I was waiting to see if anyone else came back on this before I launched out,

>but ...

>

>It seesm to me it comes down to which you'd prefer, an honest person telling

>you your fic stinks higher than rotten kippered herring, or a silence that

>you can interpret as meaning is "good enough".

>Myself, I'd rather keep my illusions. I squeak from experience -- yes, one

>or two people have e'd me off-list to make positive comments, but the

>on-list comments have got to the level of one per episode posted, and

>usually from the same round of people. I'm not complaining -- they say no

>news is good news. Presumably, people in general tolerate the rot I write,

>and one or two put their heads over the parapet to say so. But "honest

>feedback" that tells me "You're crap" -- for one thing, it would be a signal

>to stop wiritng at once. A writer is only a real writer is someone reads

>them. A writer needs only one reader. I get the list in digests: I know

>most of you get it in individual messages: that means, if you don't like a

>story-line or a writer, you simply delete his/r message.

>

>Don't get me wrong, I agree it's hard to improve without "honest

>feedback" -- but isn't that why most of you writing guys use betas and the

>like, to pre-check for quality, plot-holes, and inconsistencies ? I don't,

>because I've (almost) always written "first-and-final-draft" style, and

>because I hate rewriting. But also because imagine how I'd feel if seven

>parts into soemthing, I was told it lacked -- whatever --. Effort wasted:

>abandon project -- let the *real* writers (and most of them, Cilia, can beat

>me into a pulp any day of any week you name) get on with it.

>

>'Nuff said -- back to the Lurking Pit.

>

>Soren, Nyrond & Lurker.

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:32:36 -0000

> > From: "Cilia"

> > Subject: Memo: The State Of The Lists

> >

> > Greetings one and all,

> > I'm writing this to address the status of the lists, namely

> > BuffyWantsWillow and our mother list BuffyLovesWillow. This has been

> > bothering me for quite some times and I really need to get these ideas and

> > thoughts down.

> >

>

> >

> > Second order of business:

> > Feedback, not the lack of it rather the lack of honest feedback. This

>topic

> > has been raised before, but never publicly to my knowledge. I've been with

> > the list almost since it's birth and I've gotten a wee bit tired of the

>lack

> > critique in the feedback I get. I hope that other writers share this view

> > with me. This is what I propose; that group of people take on the

> > responsibility of giving honest feedback to writers, not flaming or

>anything

> > just an honest opinion, point on plot holes, lack of character development

> > and so forth, it's hard to improve your story when you never get that kind

> > of feedback.

> >

>

> >

> > With regards,

> > Cilia, writer

>

>

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