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Re: OT—Where_is_the_Love?_—SPOILERS!!



Spoiler Section...fdfsdsdfsdssdfsdfdsalright here's my thoughts.Personally I like the idea of an evil Willow. Think about it it makes perfect sense. Willow is supposed to be the voice of morality of the show. But what happens when the voice of morality does something immoral....she raises the dead.Willow has a heart of gold, which is a valuable commodity. Think what would happen if she knowingly...or unknowing sells it. Even if it is for altruistic purposes (and I truly think it was).Willow is a good person. Never forget that. But even good people can be tempted by power, love, anger, jelousy, and loss.Willow just might have sold her soul to get back the one person she couldn't bare to live without.FemvampHey and Evil Willow might be fun to watch.--- danspector@xxxxxxxxx wrote:> Six extremely depressed hours after "Flooded" aired?> > W> E> E> P> I> N> G > > F> O> R> > "> M> Y> > W> I> L> L> O> W> "> > You know, this whole thing just sickens me. Not> only are all my fears> being confirmed, not only is the show apparently> heading to permanently> killing my interest in it (and sadly, said interest> seems to occupy a> disproportionate part of my life) but now we have> two new horrors:> > 1) They are doing this "Evil Willow/Buffy Loves> Spike" plot with all> the subtlety of a sledgehammer, and it's just bad> television, character> implications and my own personal enjoyment aside.> > 2) No one seems to care. General posting sites> like The Bronzeshelter> and ~Buffy~ are full of "yea, Spike!" and "Way to> go, Giles! Yes, yell> at Willow!". Where the hell are the protests, the> "We love Willow,> don't do this to her!" posts? I'm not even talking> 'ship here,> people?I don't see any support for the character,> any opposition to> the total perversion of Buffy's best friend, just so> they'll have an> excuse to stick her with Spike.> > Buffy dates a vampire, Gee, that'll be original.> > Someone Buffy loves betrays her. Also REAL new. > And with Angel,> darkness was a part of his character, something> Buffy always feared;> the whole Angelus arc was saying sometimes love> can't change people,> they're the people they are no matter how much we> care for them.> > Willow of course has none of that in her. Not to> beat a dead horse, but> she's supposed to be the representative of essential> humanity?> > Enjoining spell ("Primeval"): Buffy is the Hand> (strength), Xander the> Heart (courage), Giles the MInd (intellect)?and> Willow is the spirit> (essential humanity)> > ?turn that evil and there's no point to the show.> > Also it kills the earlier eps: not gonna have a lot> of fun seeing the> Willow we know and love if we know that at the end> of the day she turns> irredeemably evil and Buffy has to kill her (not> that that's happening,> but the way this is going, look out!).> > Random thoughts: I think it's time to retire Doug> Petrie (yes, I know> Espenson is also to blame for "Flooded", but I think> she just did the> comedy scenes?which were pretty lame on their own). > "The Weight of> the World" was nothing special, but this was drek. > Okay comedy with> Buffy, lame comedy with the Nerd Squad (and since> when are Warren and> Jonathan evil? and isn't "Buffy" supposed to be an> inclusive show, not> mocking nerds and such? what's next, blaming> Willow's evil on her> lesbianism?). And then the big relationship scenes.> > > The Giles and Buffy stuff was fine, but I still> can't get over him> yelling at Willow and insulting her like that. What> happened to> something like "Willow, I'm concerned" or "We have> to be very careful",> instead of "You're a very stupid girl." and "You> arrogant, rank,> amateur!!", huh??> > And then that cheap blatant, "Oh, look, I'm evil"> line, where Willow> actually threatens Giles. Hey, maybe next week they> can have her> torture puppies while twirling her mustache and> cackling evilly. I know> there's such a thing as foreshadowing, but there's> also such a thing as> a gradual build?and that was the most hamfisted crap> I've seen in a> long time on this show.> > Well, unless you count that we immediately cut to> Buffy and Spike,> outdoors, sitting in a tree, K-i-s-s-i-n-g. Well,> not quite, but> practically. Real subtle way for Petrie (or> Espenson) to make the point> "Willow bad, Spike good."> > Also had to worry about Spike's comment on "thinning> the herd" which> seems to be Joss's way of saying he's gonna dump> some actors. I still> suppose it'll be Tara, though. They say Joss likes> to give us what we> want in ways we don't want it. This would be> another case: I'd much> rather have Tara at her simpering worst than have> her maimed/killed by> Evil Willow.> > It's also weird they think the cast is too big, as> it's smaller (6> regulars, 2 recurring) than it's been, except for> Season 1 (5 regulars,> 2 recurring). Was just looking at "Graduation Day,> Part 1" today, and> we've got 7 regulars (Buffy, Xander, Willow, Cordy,> Angel, Oz, Giles)> and 2 long-term recurring (Joyce, Snyder) and 2> season-arc recurring> (Faith, Wesley) and Anya, who's just started> recurring and is building> towards regular status, and also guest spots by> Harmony and Percy, with> Larry, Devon and Jonathan in part 2.> > Going back to Giles ripping Willow a new one,> shouldn't the man without> an Eyghon tattoo cast the first stone? As a> once-devout black arts> practitioner, you'd think he'd go a little easier on> someone who was at> least trying to do good.> > And it's ridiculous that he rips Willow for trying> something dangerous> to save a friend. EXCUSE ME, but the whole show is> about how> individuals are important, you help your friends and> deal with the> consequences later. Giles might remember how he was> willing to take a> chance on the Master rising, just as long as he> stopped Buffy from dying> like the prophecy said ("Prophecy Girl"?and Xander> has the same> sentiments). Or he could recall how Buffy let> Angelus get away (and> kill more people and nearly destroy the world)> because she was saving> his sorry Watcher ass ("Passion"). Or how Buffy let> the Mayor have the> vital Box of Gavrok to save Willow ("Choices"). Or> how Buffy was> willing to risk the Mayor's Ascension by giving> Angel her blood to live> ("Graduation Day, Part 2"). Or the gang's risky and> probably foolish> rescues of Riley and Oz from the Initiative> ("Goodbye, Iowa" and "New> Moon Rising"). Or Buffy saying she'd let the world> end rather than kill> Dawn ("The Gift"). Yeah, Willow was waaaaaay over> the line on this,> surrrrrrre.> === message truncated ===


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