OT Episode 19 & 20 SPOILERS

[jeepy91@xxxxxxx]

Hey guys, some new stuff has come out about episodes 19 and 20 and I thought 
I'd pass it along.

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Anyway, a small bit of this actually might not be bad for us ships. But 
episode 20 especially looks to be extremely dark :( These come from probably 
the most reliable source on the net, AngelX of the Buffy Cross & Stake


NEW! Tara isn't the only one seriously wounded in this episode. Buffy is also 
shot in the chest (in episode 19, but 20 picks up immediately after the 
shooting) and rushed to the hospital. Doctors have a great deal of difficulty 
saving her and before they can fail, Buffy's rescued from (yet another) 
certain death by...Willow.


NEW! Xander is with Buffy when she is shot and accompanies her to the 
hospital and (once she is healed) works at Buffy's side for most of the 
episode.


NEW! Willow's good deed is rescuing Buffy at the hospital. This takes place 
at the hospital *after* she consumes an enormous amount of black magic, 
making it possible for her to save Buffy by literally removing the bullet 
from her friend's chest.


NEW! After discovering that his aim was not quite so perfect and Buffy didn't 
actually die when he shot her, Warren desperately seeks help from Rack. The 
demonic dealer suggests Warren run like hell before Willow catches up with 
him and frightened, Warren demands magical assistance to help him escape. 
Rack agrees, but warns there isn't enough magic in the world to save the man 
from the witch's wrath.


NEW! With her concerned friends in tow, Willow chases after Warren. She 
senses his presence on a bus leaving town and uses magic to intercept it. 
However, the Warren she sensed on that bus turns out to be a robot, which 
Willow strangles to the point of destruction. (Willow kills both the 
Warrenbot and the real Warren in this episode.)


NEW! With everyone else out of the house, Dawn unfortunately goes into 
Willow's bedroom and finds Tara's body. After Buffy and Xander hear from 
Willow that Warren killed Tara when he tried to shoot Buffy, they return to 
the house to see for themselves, and find Dawn still there. (This eventually 
leads to Dawn going to Spike's crypt.)


NEW! After Willow raids the Magic Shop (and consumes dark magic from books 
that turn her hair and eyes pitch black), Anya is rescued from one of 
Willow's spells (Anya's frozen in place, but not in an ice way) by Xander and 
Buffy. She indirectly reveals to both of them that she's returned to her 
vengeance demon roots and for Willow's sake, she agrees to lead the way to 
the dark witch. The three of them find Willow...but it's too late to stop her 
from killing Warren.


NEW! Katrina (Warren's ex-girlfriend) is brought back in a walking-dead sense 
as a tool for Willow to use in her torment of Warren. (I'm not perfectly 
clear on whether Katrina's actual body is brought up from the grave or if 
it's just a vision of her dead body that is used. I suspect the actual body 
though.)


Where are Buffy and Tara when they get shot?
Just judging on where the bodies are in episode 20, Buffy is in the backyard 
and Tara is in Willow's room. I *think* Willow is with Tara when it happens 
as Xander is with Buffy when it happens, but I'm not sure. Willow could be 
elsewhere in the house or something, but I don't see how she could be 
anywhere but in the house. So Willow is either with Tara when it happens, or 
finds her, and then Willow just leaves Tara's body where it is and Dawn 
stumbles across it? Am I understanding this right?
Yes.

How does Warren know who Rack is, and where to find him? Does Rack survive 
the ep, and what kind of assistance does he give Warren?
I really don't know how Warren finds Rack. He just shows up at the invisible 
traveling magic place. As far as I know, Rack survives... he just gives 
Warren some magical skills to battle against Willow.

Re: More on Spike and Africa...
If I had anything to clarify with I would...but I don't. The scene in episode 
20 is short, vague and confusing. Like I said in the spoiler, I don't know 
what Spike is asking for, what he has to do to get it or what he gets in the 
case that he wins. Spike says very little that is telling and the demon he is 
meeting with speaks in an "all powerful/all knowing" kind of way and doesn't 
give any direct hint as to exactly what is going to happen or what Spike 
wants. It is implied that the chip has caused him trouble and he wants to go 
back to what he was before it. How far back, I don't know. 

The only message my spoiler should be conveying is that Spike goes to the 
demon and in exchange for some challenge(s), he gets something that he wants. 
Beyond that, I don't know.

Re: Who finds Willow first? Etc...
Willow is the first to find the body...she is there either when it happens or 
very soon afterwards. She would have no reason to go all black magic like if 
she didn't know about Tara's death. Once she finds that Tara cannot be saved, 
she leaves on a mission to do whatever it takes to get her revenge on Warren.

Re: Do "One Down" and "Two to Go" refer to the Trio?
Yes.

Who disarms Warren, Xander? And does Xander try to give Buffy first Aid and 
call the cops?
I don't know. Warren gets away, so I would assume no one, but the event 
actually occurs in 19 and I don't have enough information on it. An ambulance 
is called, I assume by Xander since I don't think anyone else is home (other 
than Willow and Tara upstairs) at the time.

Re: Whether Jonathan and Andrew know about Warren...
The guys are in jail throughout the episode, waiting for Warren to bail them 
out. They're out of the loop.

Re: Dawn's reaction to finding Tara...
It's pretty predictable. We don't see much of the reaction, it's mostly 
silent shock.

Re: How come Dawn returns to an empty house? Why isn't she with the rest of 
the gang?
The events happen during the day. Dawn is at school while all of this takes 
place and returns home afterwards when everyone is gone.

Re: Anya's role...
She has a pretty big role in the events. Xander tries to work things out with 
her in 18, but it doesn't work out. She plays a big part in finding Willow in 
20 (because she can sense Willow's need for vengeance) even though it doesn't 
help them stop Willow.

Re: the "but it's too late" part of one spoiler. (It's been reworded now...)
The others show up in time to see Willow finally kill Warren.

Does spike know that buffy got shot and do you think 'two to go' and 'one 
down' refers to the members left of the scoobie gang?
No to both. Although it's possible the two to go thing does refer to the 
Scoobies, it just doesn't make much sense with the plot as far as I can tell.

Re: Whether spoilers were indicating a B/X romance...
No. I wasn't trying to imply that romance is going on, because it's not as 
far as this episode is concerned. It just happens that Xander's role in 
episode 20 is centered around being at Buffy's side. Just trying to point out 
that he actually plays a part in the episode.

Explanation on Buffy's injury in ep 19...
Buffy's back is injured in 19 somehow. Totally unrelated to Spike or Warren. 
The shooting does not happen until the very end of the episode...after her 
back injury, after her encounter with Spike.

Re: Buffy being awake or saying something after getting shot...
She's out. Unlike Tara, the bullet doesn't kill Buffy quickly. It's a serious 
injury, but she's still alive. She's just completely out until Willow heals 
her. (Edited later to clarify cause the logic alarm in my head went off... 
Buffy isn't knocked unconscious or anything by the shot. She just is very 
seriously injured... gasping for breath at first and clinging to life later. 
She doesn't say anything and really doesn't have much strength to *do* 
anything until after Willow saves her.)

Re: Final words between W/T, how Buffy is saved by Willow, and whether anyone 
notices Willow's strange look at the hospital...
As far as I know, there are no final words between them. I'm pretty sure 
Tara's wound is immediately fatal...but I don't know for sure. We really 
don't know the whole story yet, give it a chance. As I said above, Willow 
levitates the bullet out of Buffy and heals the wound. And Willow doesn't 
come in through the door and she sends all the doctors and nurses out of the 
operating room, so no one really is able to notice.

Re: Halfrek...
Hallie is in ep 18, but not 20. I don't know about 19.

Re: Anya's appearance and reactions to her being a demon again from Buffy and 
Xander...
Anya is the same as she was before as a demon in "The Wish." Capable of being 
human looking and demon looking. Buffy and Xander have a lot on their mind 
when they find Anya and find out that she's a demon again. Their concern lies 
in whether or not she will help them save Willow or whether she's going to be 
their enemy. They don't spend a lot of time dwelling on it...there isn't any 
to spare.

Re: Are Andrew and Jonathan actually seen in 20?
Yes, we see them.

Re: Do we see Amy at all?
Not as far as I know.

Re: How ep 20 starts...
An ambulance arriving at the house and a blood-covered Xander directing the 
paramedics to Buffy is how the ep starts.

Re: Does Willow heal Buffy enough that she leaves the hospital?
Willow removes the bullet and closes the gaping hole in Buffy's chest with 
magic. She awakens immediately and appropriate jokes about her dying again 
are made. :)

Video watching and relationship revelations in 18...
The whole gang (minus Tara and the obvious participants on the video) watch 
the video. Willow and Dawn know from looking at the way Buffy reacts and 
Buffy leaves the room and soon after confirms the truth about it in a private 
conversation with Dawn. Buffy and Xander go over to the Magic Shop where Anya 
and Xander find out about Buffy/Spike when Spike manages to let it slip.

Re: Does Willow seem in her right mind when she kills Warren?
Anyone who goes through what she goes through would be in their right mind. 
But considering how far she ultimately takes things and as dark as she gets, 
I wouldn't consider temporary insanity an excuse. It goes further than just a 
rage-induced accidental killing. She knows what she's doing and she's 
determined to do it. Her friends remind her repeatedly that killing humans is 
wrong, but that doesn't stop her.

I don't doubt the possibility that she'll be brought back from the 
darkness... but it won't be something the characters will be able to get over 
really quick or blame on a momentary loss of mind.

How Buffy and Tara are both shot when so far apart from each other...
I don't know. I don't have the scene, I don't know how it happens. Somehow it 
does and Warren doesn't realize that one of the bullets missed the target. It 
really isn't until his encounter with Willow at the end that he finds out 
that he killed Tara. Until then, he assumes Willow is after him because he 
shot Buffy.

Re: Why Willow can't bring Tara back and what happens...
Willow tries to resurrect Tara like she did with Buffy earlier. She calls on 
Osiris but a demon appears and brutally rejects her request. Willow screams 
in agony and anger, expelling some kind of power from within herself that 
kills the demon.

Re: Amount of attention paid to Dawn and the discovery of Tara's body...
There's a very quick scene where she discovers the body and then that is 
picked up again later when Buffy finds her in the bedroom with the body. 
Buffy and Xander take care of calling the coroner and the body is removed 
from the house soon after.

Re: Whether we see any tests Spike faces and how big of a role he has in ep 
20...
Not in 20 [for the tests]. He gets one scene in 20. It's fairly long, but 
it's not very revealing.

Re: Request for elaboration on Clem's presence...
He's just in 20 watching over the crypt. Nothing further is given.

Re: More on Dawn finding Tara's body...
No one else (other than Willow) knows what happened to Tara before Dawn finds 
her. Willow really isn't in a mental state to call for a coroner. And 
personally, at that point, I think she's kinda got issues with the "human" 
ways. It's "human" actions that get Tara killed and keep her from coming 
back. And Buffy and Tara are shot at about the same time... it happens very 
fast.

Re: Why Anya helps Buffy and Xander find Willow...
Anya *wants* to help Willow. She's a vengeance demon again and it's kinda her 
purpose to help those seek vengeance. Buffy and Xander ask for her help, for 
a spell that will locate Willow for them, but Anya doesn't need one. She 
agrees to help them because helping scorned women is what she does and she 
wants to help Willow. She doesn't regret it... she really isn't given a big 
enough reason to.

Re: Whether Willow sets Warren on fire...
Willow does a lot of things to Warren. The final battle scene between her and 
Warren takes up almost the entire final act and a good portion of the third 
one. I thought for sure I'd already reported some of this when I first 
reported Tara's death, but...maybe not. Ultimately, in the end of it all, 
Willow hits Warren with a fireball that burns him to death.

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Re: Far out speculation on the censorship of the B/S scene in 19 and who 
censored it...
UPN did not step in and get involved. They had nothing to do with the scene 
getting cut down, it was Fox. The really *big* execs. When they're concerned 
about a storyline, they do that. It's not that big of a deal, I was just 
trying to point out (and really didn't intend for it to become tabloid news 
on any boards but my own) that the scene as many know it was cut down and we 
don't know how the final product will end up. That's all. Re: Comments about 
the spoilage on joking remarks made after Buffy is revived and my own opinion 
on Tara's body being left at the house... It is Xander doing the joking. 
Willow doesn't say too much.

And, I don't know if this helps any... but I really don't think there's too 
much intentional disrespect to the fans intended with Tara's body being left 
there. Willow is the *only* one who knows it happens when it does and she 
leaves devastated. Honestly, I couldn't imagine her going to a phone to call 
for a coroner or anything like that. She knows Tara cannot be helped by 
doctors and as far as the supernatural forces are concerned, she's not coming 
back by their means either. Her attention is consumed by the need to take 
matters into her own hands. Having Tara taken away physically would mean some 
sort of finality to Tara's death and that isn't something Willow can accept. 
But maybe that's just how I see 


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