Re: Re: OT: "I don't see why..."

[Alnisa Allgood <allgood2@xxxxxxxx>]

At 5:27 PM -0700 5/9/02, danspector@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On listmom's question as to why I deleted the post:
>
> Because the people who get daily digests would otherwise see the
> (improperly-headed) spoiler post before they saw blinviz's warning not
> to read it. Since allegedly it didn't use a proper heading and/or
> spoiler space (I just deleted it sight unseen), the unspoiled wouldn't
> have a chance to employ the "If you don't want to know, don't read"
> rule.

Interesting since the message in question had tons of spoiler space. 
Not only did it indicate spoiler in the title, but it used a fairly 
large leader, then an excessively large quote of a prior message when 
I only really needed two sentences of the original message to make my 
point.

I realize that a fair number of people don't want to be spoiled. But 
the lengths people force others to accommodate them is excessive. I 
replied to a conversation that was almost entirely spoilers. In 
keeping with that reply I tool great care to insure that my message 
wouldn't be viewable to those using preview panes for messages.

I was even quite when the little lecture about how spoilers posters 
should not only give fair warning but then take the extra, extra 
effort to break spoilers down into multiple type. I really don't 
care that the message was deleted, but I do have to say, I believe 
the responsibility for those who wish to remain spoiler free should 
be on those who want to remain spoiler free.

Certainly some care and consideration should be given by others, but 
its not my responsibility to make sure someone who reads a post 
subjected SPOILERS, doesn't get spoiled. If they don't want to be 
spoiled DON'T read the post.

I'm sorry. Cause I'm certain its not the popular thing to say, but I 
will say the following...

Providing spoiler space and clearly labeled SPOILER headings in the 
subject is a courtesy. Its meant to be respectful and considerate of 
those who wish to remain spoiler free. Having those who wish to 
remain spoiler free demand, multiple spoiler spaces between different 
types of spoilers is just demanding, rude, and absolutely without 
courtesy to those who wish to participate in those topics of 
conversation.

I've watched as more and more rules keep getting added to how to 
treat spoilers. And really they are just ridiculous. My post clearly 
indicated that spoils would be contained within, the post I responded 
to clearly indicated that spoilers would be contained within, and the 
entire topic of conversation was about where the show would go after 
the most current episode (obviously speculation and spoilers). I 
really don't see why myself or any other posters would have to take 
any more responsibility than that.

Certainly I understand the compelling need for those who belong on 
the list to want to participate in as many conversations as possible. 
But if you've made the decision to be spoiler free. Then at least 
take the responsibility of not reading messages with the subject 
SPOILERS in them. Reading them, then being surprised and dismayed 
that you were spoiled is.. well just inane.

Alnisa
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