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Cynthia
I've had two other people comment and both have been
different and understanding...along with yours. I
know that BTVS is a fantasy show but it also has to
have a bearing in reality somewhere along the way. I
understand how the gang is understanding of Willow's
sexuality and of other gay members of society...but in
most fics i've read the couples meet other people just
like them every time they turn around. And thats what
kinda irks me about it all. There are not many gay
couples who show their affections in public so they're
not easy to find unless your looking everywhere for
them and that's still hard. And it gets boring after
awhile reading that the whole world is ok with it...i
dunno maybe i'm being foolish about the whole thing
and i'm sure a few will agree with that. But yea i'd
like to see what you can come up with using what ever
characters you want to. In today's society or at
least where I live and what i have experienced as a
lesbian life is not easy and some kids are not very
understanding. Even though it may be 'in' it is still
frowned upon by many and just that is enough to scare
the hell out of you...sorry for my wording...so
yea..i'd like to see what you can come up with.
Hopefully i haven't offended anyone with my thoughts
and if i have i'm sorry.
--- Cynthia Winters <cnwinters@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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<P>I'm not sure anyone posted to you yet Mandy but you
bring up some good issues. In the real world coming
out is not a good experience for the most part.
Eventually I think it frees the soul in some ways but
in others...it's isolating. Especially if you have
friends and family that don't understand or
worse don't WANT to understand. I think it's
twice as hard if you're a teenager when everyone is
supposed to fit in. I remember how cruel some
teenagers can be in general and when it comes to
homosexuality it's far worse. Reason being is the
fear factor. Teenagers are trying to find their place
in the world and it's true that some of the most
homophobic people are the ones that aren't certain of
their sexuality. I admire you for making the choices
you have. It takes a lot of guts and courage.</P>
<P>Which leads me to my point about
'Buffy:TVS'....</P>
<P>Buffy is a fantasy show but there are many roots of
reality in it. Buffy's reaction to Willow is exactly
the best friend reaction of someone who's confident in
their sexuality but a bit thrown by a friend's
confession. I keep remembering how she kept saying
'Wills' with every sentence after Buffy put two and
two together and got ...Will and
Tara...together...THAT way<LOL>. But I
also can see how Willow's gang would accept her as
lesbian. They love her and although they didn't
understand it at first she was still Willow. Plus, no
one in the gang at any point previously acted
malicious towards gays. Xander was uncomfortable with
Larry but still he didn't go around school telling
everyone he was gay. He's discomforted seemed to come
from the confusion that Larry had about Xander. The
guy bared his soul to Xander because he thought he was
gay too and Xander didn't know how to 'fix it' without
making Larry feel terrible. So what did he do?...He
let it ride...But again, he was secure in the fact he
was straight. I think everyone in the scoobie gang
knows who they are so they are far more accepting.
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<P>I'm not sure if I can write you a Buffy/Willow fic
but I know I could write a Tara/Willow fic like that.
Reason being is I don't see Buffy/Willow together
during the high school years (sorry<G>). But I
can certainly see Shelia Rosenberg having a problem
with her daughter being gay. If you think you'd be
interested I'd like to take the challenge. Let me know
and drop me an email on or off list.<BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Mandy
<SWEET_N_SLICK2002@xxxxxxxxx>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To:
buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<DIV></DIV>>To: Group
<BUFFYWANTSWILLOW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~
::buffywantswillow::fic challenge i guess and thoughts
on fics
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:29:28 -0800
(PST)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>My name is Mandy and i'm kinda new to
this and kinda
<DIV></DIV>>not. I've posted 2 parts of a story but
have never
<DIV></DIV>>finished, i read everyone's fics, but i
don't post
<DIV></DIV>>much at all. If those of you who know
my story don't
<DIV></DIV>>expect it for awhile cuz with family,
my gf, and life
<DIV></DIV>>i can't do much nowadays.
<DIV></DIV>>But i've had a few thoughts on many
fics that i've
<DIV></DIV>>read. In most of your guy's fics there
are like many
<DIV></DIV>>gay/lesbian couples....mainly
lesbian...but
<DIV></DIV>>anyways...i've noticed that everytime
buffy and willow
<DIV></DIV>>get together and come out to
everyone...it's like the
<DIV></DIV>>whole world is ok with it. And then
another couple
<DIV></DIV>>like them shows up. I've kinda got a
problem with
<DIV></DIV>>this cuz that's not how it is and many
of you know
<DIV></DIV>>what i mean. I mean close friends are
ok with it but
<DIV></DIV>>rumors start leaking and then things
get started and
<DIV></DIV>>no offense to anyone...but you don't
find gay couples
<DIV></DIV>>everytime you turn around like most
fics portray.
<DIV></DIV>>Granted there are a few fics i've seen
that tell about
<DIV></DIV>>the hard times but not many. I guess
really what i'm
<DIV></DIV>>kinda looking for is someone to write a
fic based on
<DIV></DIV>>real life...the thoughts and fears that
go thru
<DIV></DIV>>peoples heads...the lies, rumors,
names, threats that
<DIV></DIV>>are made. I guess buffy don't really
have to deal
<DIV></DIV>>with that but is there a way someone
could fit all
<DIV></DIV>>that into a story? Bein a 16 yr old in
a public high
<DIV></DIV>>school...things are scary. I'm a
sophmore just like
<DIV></DIV>>buffy and willow were so maybe you
could start them
<DIV></DIV>>there. I'd appreciate seeing something
like this from
<DIV></DIV>>anyone out there who thinks they can do
it and have
<DIV></DIV>>the experience for what i'm looking
for. thanks for
<DIV></DIV>>your guy's time and i hope i didn't
make anyone mad
<DIV></DIV>>cuz i don't want to do that...so i'm
gonna hush now
<DIV></DIV>>cuz i have a tendency to babble alot
and make a fool
<DIV></DIV>>of myself and i'm gonna go now. Toodles
:)
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