Re: OT: SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING EPISODES

["Jolie <slyfox_kitkat@xxxxxxxxx>" <slyfox_kitkat@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cynthia Winters" 
<cnwinters@h...> wrote:
> 
> >From: "Jolie <slyfox_kitkat@y...>" <slyfox_kitkat@y...>
> >Reply-To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~ Re: OT: SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING 
EPISODES
> >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:03:48 -0000
> >
> >--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cynthia Winters"
> ><cnwinters@h...> wrote:
> > > >From: "Jolie <slyfox_kitkat@y...>" <slyfox_kitkat@y...>
> > > >Reply-To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~ Re: OT: SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING
> >EPISODES
> > > >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:02:17 -0000
> > > >
> > > >--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Diana33" 
<diana33@e...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Jolie <slyfox_kitkat@y...>
> > > > > To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:22 PM
> > > > > Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~ SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING 
EPISODES
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> > > > > I'm not a W/T shipper either but I can't stand the idea 
that
> > > >Willow's soulmate was killed a few months ago and she's 
hooking up
> > > >with Kennedy now. IMHO that is not in character for Willow.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't mind Spike.
> > > >
> > > >Ok, I like bad ass spike, before he became pussy whipped, but 
that
> > > >is just me. But I am feeling you on the last part totally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Okay I gotta jump in here<G>. I'm probably in the minority and
> >nobody will
> > > back me up but consider this: Tara was gone for six months 
before
> >she
> > > returned for two days and decided she wanted to try again. 
Willow
> >didn't
> > > when or even IF she and Tara would get back together! Now,
> >according to the
> > > Buffy time zone<G> that was 8 months ago, nearly a year by the 
time
> >any
> > > serious Will/Ken eps will air.
> > >
> > > Yeah Willow lost it when Tara died. She tried to destory the 
world
> >but as
> > > I've pointed out in other posts to other lists the girl's got 
anger
> >issues
> > > folks. I think her apcolyptic breakdown had less to do with Tara
> >than it did
> > > a lifetime of pain.
> > >
> > > It's nothing new. She's got parents that don't even know she's
> >alive. She
> > > had a long standing attraction to a guy that never saw her as a
> >woman. She's
> > > had a relationship with a guy who shacks up with the 
first 'other
> >woman' he
> > > gets the hots for. And then when she finds herself clinging to
> >something
> > > that might make her noticible (magic) her 'devoted' girlfriend
> >leaves
> > > instead of helping her face her addiction. Add to that her best
> >friend she
> > > brought back from the dead who can't feel anything unless she's
> >with a
> > > psychopath. My point? Everyone who's ever come into Willow's 
life
> >has left
> > > her.
> > >
> > > She's anger. She's hurt. And if she can find a woman who 
says 'Here
> >I am.
> > > I'm in it for the long haul and you're not gonna push me away' 
then
> >I say
> > > Will should go for it. The poor woman's mourned enough already. 
I
> >think
> > > she's moved past being sad and is working her way into 
loneliness.
> >It's
> > > pretty pathetic when you think about it. A house full of people 
yet
> >she's
> > > totally alone. If Kennedy proves worthy, which I think she will 
if
> > > 'Showtime' is any indication, then Willow has 'this fans' 
blessing
> >to move
> > > beyond her time with Tara and find someone to love or more
> >importantly,
> > > someone who won't abandon her like everyone else has.
> > >
> > > Just had to add my two cents<G>
> > >
> > > CN
> >
> >Me personally, if I loved someone as deeply as Willow and Tara 
loved
> >each other, it would take me a long time, to be with someone
> >romantically again. Yes, they weren't together for a long time 
since
> >they broke up, but that didn't mean that love wasn't there, neither
> >moved on, did they? No, Tara and WIllow did get back together.
> >
> >Kennedy is a great girl, I like the character, BUT I don't think 
she
> >is Willow worthy. And from what I've read, they go into the
> >relationship fairly quickly, which again is like a slap in the face
> >with the beginnings of the Willow and Tara relationship, because 
they
> >just told us, and we finally got to see the two kiss in the Body 
for
> >the first time. Hell we saw too much X/A kissage and B/R and so 
on,
> >but they didn't show ANY kissage or such until the sixteenth 
episode
> >of the season and that was it.
> >
> >I am a major Buffy/Willow shipper supporter, I love Tara's 
character,
> >despite her being dead, and you know what, they wanted her to play
> >evil, and now I am glad that Amber didn't come back, because that
> >would just feel like it was degrading the character of Willow and
> >throwing salt into an already healing, but still open wound. We 
all
> >saw how Willow reacted when the first took Cassie's form and made
> >Willow believe that Tara was there, and we saw how much love she
> >still has for Willow and how much she still misses her.
> >
> >I just really wanted them to hook Willow and Buffy up together,
> >becuase those two do have a good chemistry, but they hardly utilize
> >them any more and it sucks. When it started out Buffy sought out
> >Willow and now it looks like the writesr want Buffy to care less
> >about the girl she sought out, and wanted as a friend. Now its 
just
> >sucking between them.
> >
> >That is what I feel. CN you did make some great points, and I am 
not
> >trying to belittle your opinion in any way.
> >
> >Jolie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> No belittling felt<G>. We just don't agree.
> 
> I don't think there's a 'set time' to mourn the loss of someone and 
Willow 
> did have lots of time to think about EVERYTHING that happened after 
Tara's 
> death. She didn't have to go to a job, to school or anything too 
heavy to 
> deal with. Giles took her to England where it looked like she 
joined the 
> coven and focused on her loss of Tara and to some extent the loss 
of her 
> friends.
> 
> I think Tara was the love of Will's life. I'm not sure if she'll 
ever find 
> someone like that again to be truthful. But that doesn't mean she 
shouldn't 
> try and it doesn't mean she should still be in her room crying over 
Tara's 
> picture. Since Tara was the love of her life I don't think Tara 
would want 
> that either for Will. And if the situation were reversed I don't 
think that 
> Will would feel that Tara should become a spinster because she's no 
longer 
> on the earthly plane.
> 
> We do however agree that it was best that Benson not reprise the 
role of 
> Tara just to play evil. On the other side though, I gotta admit, it 
would 
> make for great angst and I do like angst. But like my last letter 
> stated...Will's been through enough. Let Dawn or someone else have 
a little 
> angst<G>. Will needs a break<VBG>
> 
> CN

I agree, let Xander and Dawn get the angst. Kill spike(i don't like 
the pussy whipped version) and hook buffy and willow together!


Jolie