Re: Something I've noticed.

["bighotvirgo" <BHV@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

good discussion.

for me the bottom line is that fanfic is about imagination, the 
fulfillment, exercise and stimulation thereof. Whether it's a Clem/
Joyce/Faith bondage threesome or Buffy being president of the 
United States or Spike and Ira Rosenberg settling down together 
and opening a florist shop. 

to borrow the sentiment- if not the actual quote- from the that 
Great Oracle Missy Ellliott: 

"This is FANFIC ya'll! "

It's not NYTImes journalism, it's not a sex manual, it's not a court 
transcript. It is what it is, yo! If it was supposed to be perfect , 
most of us wouldn't be allowed to do it. 

if it floats your boat to write it, write it. If it floats your
boat to read 
it, read it. 

If you feel the author is way off base in some direction but still 
redeemable, send them some good constructive feedback.   

If they simply pissed you off, tell them.

If you find what they offensive, hurtful or misogynistic, it's your 
call. Take them to task, post a warning to other readers, have 
the mod yank the fic, turn off the computer and go take a walk, 
write your own fic, whatever. 

Just like the rest of you, I've read truly execrable f/f fic by
lesbian/
bi writers who shall remain nameless, truly transcendant f/f fic by 
men (coughKirayoshiMadHamletcough) and everything in 
between and on either side

most commonly applicable fault/dead giveaway I find with F/F fic 
by men is that things are a little too , to borrow Principal Wood's 
airquotes, "enthused." there's too much of everything all the 
time. 
but I'm with Rainne (I think it was Rainne's post) - I find bad 
grammar a far worse offense. 

One thing I'm always curious about when people make these 
statements about who could and shouldn't write what is:

just how far do they want to take this? Are we supposed to have 
certifiying committees of bisexuals/lesbians stamping their 
approval on fics?  

(If so, I'll make the sacrifice and volunteer for the job...as long
as 
there's a decent honorarium and per diem, of course....<g>)

BTW, bless you, Connor, for going the extra mile and getting your 
stuff beta-ed by your sis.  

and on the other hand, what about the lesbian/bi writers who 
don't make the cut ? If my upcoming update(s) to my first ever 
bona fide NC-17 don't pass someone's Lesbian test, what's 
going to happen to me? Am I to be drummed off the list at 
sunrise, taken to the internet city limits and thrown out, or what?


well, that's enough ranting for me - carry on, ya'll. Let's have fun!




--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, maría virginia <
virginia2k_15@y...> wrote:
> {Moderator note:
> The beginning of this post was a complaint that people who 
have not experienced girl-girl sex shouldn't write NC-17, 
because [in the poster's opinion] they can't write it convincingly.  
I've edited because the tone seemed a tad harsh, IMO.  
> 
> I also edited the subject line. The use of all-caps is "yelling" 
and not necessary here.
> 
> Anyway, here's the rest of the post. --Dan)
> 
> ..please don't write about it cause it's not real and sometimes 
it's i don't know so out of the point you know?!...so...im new here, 
and i love fanfics, so is this group, im a huge fan of willow/buffy 
> thing and im a truly believer that they had hidden feelings for 
each other even on the real show, you know...just look at their 
lines, and what about the looks? and the i kind of love you 
> think?...mmmm...buffy is heterosexual ok! but willow is her 
secret desire! and it'll be forever!...just don't write if you don't 
know please!...and don't get mad im just trying to make a 
point...and sorry my mistakes but im from venezuela and we 
speak spanish! :D!...love you! bye! hope this can start a 
discussion! :D