Re: Something I've noticed.

Hey don't want to be rude but...[and, in those interests, a very brief edit--Dan] ...im sorry but i kind of find your 
message very deffensive, i mean im not saying that all the fanfics 
are bad or stuff like that, im just saying something i noticed not 
only in here, i've read fanfics since i was 12 (note: and im 
18) and this is something i've noticed like ALWAYS! and i was trying 
to find out if i was the only one to noticed it...and for me fanfics 
are part of the imagination, and a big start for really good writers, 
but when it comes to a general and real thing like it is the art of 
making love, you should know what you are getting into, cause if you 
know how to write not only that part but the others very well then 
your story will be EXCELLENT! and it'll help you, it's like talking 
about something on the tv and not having a clue what are you talking 
about, how can you espect everyone to understand what are you trying 
to say? well, just read, watch and learn about it and THEN, YOU CAN 
TALK! that's it....and once again sorry the grammar in case i have 
mistakes!!!....bye!







--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bighotvirgo" <BHV@s...> 
wrote:
> 
> good discussion.
> 
> for me the bottom line is that fanfic is about imagination, the 
> fulfillment, exercise and stimulation thereof. Whether it's a Clem/
> Joyce/Faith bondage threesome or Buffy being president of the 
> United States or Spike and Ira Rosenberg settling down together 
> and opening a florist shop. 
> 
> to borrow the sentiment- if not the actual quote- from the that 
> Great Oracle Missy Ellliott: 
> 
> "This is FANFIC ya'll! "
> 
> It's not NYTImes journalism, it's not a sex manual, it's not a 
court 
> transcript. It is what it is, yo! If it was supposed to be 
perfect , 
> most of us wouldn't be allowed to do it. 
> 
> if it floats your boat to write it, write it. If it floats your
> boat to read 
> it, read it. 
> 
> If you feel the author is way off base in some direction but still 
> redeemable, send them some good constructive feedback. 
> 
> If they simply pissed you off, tell them.
> 
> If you find what they offensive, hurtful or misogynistic, it's your 
> call. Take them to task, post a warning to other readers, have 
> the mod yank the fic, turn off the computer and go take a walk, 
> write your own fic, whatever. 
> 
> Just like the rest of you, I've read truly execrable f/f fic by
> lesbian/
> bi writers who shall remain nameless, truly transcendant f/f fic by 
> men (coughKirayoshiMadHamletcough) and everything in 
> between and on either side
> 
> most commonly applicable fault/dead giveaway I find with F/F fic 
> by men is that things are a little too , to borrow Principal 
Wood's 
> airquotes, "enthused." there's too much of everything all the 
> time. 
> but I'm with Rainne (I think it was Rainne's post) - I find bad 
> grammar a far worse offense. 
> 
> One thing I'm always curious about when people make these 
> statements about who could and shouldn't write what is:
> 
> just how far do they want to take this? Are we supposed to have 
> certifiying committees of bisexuals/lesbians stamping their 
> approval on fics? 
> 
> (If so, I'll make the sacrifice and volunteer for the job...as long
> as 
> there's a decent honorarium and per diem, of course....<g>)
> 
> BTW, bless you, Connor, for going the extra mile and getting your 
> stuff beta-ed by your sis. 
> 
> and on the other hand, what about the lesbian/bi writers who 
> don't make the cut ? If my upcoming update(s) to my first ever 
> bona fide NC-17 don't pass someone's Lesbian test, what's 
> going to happen to me? Am I to be drummed off the list at 
> sunrise, taken to the internet city limits and thrown out, or what?
> 
> 
> well, that's enough ranting for me - carry on, ya'll. Let's have 
fun!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, maría virginia <
> virginia2k_15@y...> wrote:
> > {Moderator note:
> > The beginning of this post was a complaint that people who 
> have not experienced girl-girl sex shouldn't write NC-17, 
> because [in the poster's opinion] they can't write it 
convincingly. 
> I've edited because the tone seemed a tad harsh, IMO. 
> > 
> > I also edited the subject line. The use of all-caps is "yelling" 
> and not necessary here.
> > 
> > Anyway, here's the rest of the post. --Dan)
> > 
> > ..please don't write about it cause it's not real and sometimes 
> it's i don't know so out of the point you know?!...so...im new 
here, 
> and i love fanfics, so is this group, im a huge fan of willow/buffy 
> > thing and im a truly believer that they had hidden feelings for 
> each other even on the real show, you know...just look at their 
> lines, and what about the looks? and the i kind of love you 
> > think?...mmmm...buffy is heterosexual ok! but willow is her 
> secret desire! and it'll be forever!...just don't write if you 
don't 
> know please!...and don't get mad im just trying to make a 
> point...and sorry my mistakes but im from venezuela and we 
> speak spanish! :D!...love you! bye! hope this can start a 
> discussion! :D