Re: E

["ebailey140" <ebailey140@xxxxxxx>]

--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Strife Aileron" 
<stryker@e...> wrote:
> > What about the hundreds upon hundreds of graves swallowed up by 
> Spike's magical McGuffin?  What about the Espresso Pump?  The 
> Bronze? Not of that stuff had any meaning?  Tara's grave?  Joyce's 
> grave?  
>
> Which we were never going to see again, regardless.  Sunnydale was 
> going to be gone, for us, anyway.  But, for the characters, we 
know 
> there's life AFTER the Hellmouth.  We left them with hope for the 
> future, rather than condemned to an early and painful death. 
>
> Sure, it messes up some fanfic, but really, they had no 
> responsibility to maintain a status quo for the fic writers.  
Their 
> only responsibility was to finish the story THEY started.       
>
> Okay, here's where you lost any support from me.  It _does_ matter 
that Sunnydale is now the 'Crater-Formerly-Known-As.'  It does _not_ 
matter that we will never see it again.
> For the past _seven_ years, Buffy has been fighting for 
Sunnydale's survival and, in the end, it doesn't seem to matter.  It 
was destroyed anyway.
> All of the characters were tied to Sunnydale in some way.  They 
grew up there, they buried their mother or lover or friends there, 
they hung out at places in Sunnydale.
> Hope?  For what?  That they will never visit their mother's, or 
friends, or lover's grave.  They will never get to go to the Bronze 
again, they will never get to ordr mochas at the Espresso Pump?
> So, it doesn't matter that _we_ will never see Sunnydale.  But it 
_does_ matter that the characters will never see Sunnydale again.

They were fighting for the world's survival, and the people who 
lived in Sunnydale, not for the buildings of Sunnydale, themselves.  
By the end, everyone had finally gotten the good sense to clear out 
of a place that existed solely for demons to feed on, and they 
weren't going back.  Compared to the survival of the world, and 
everyone living in it, the Bronze and Expresso Pump were a small 
price to pay.  Not that there was anyone left to enjoy them, 
anyway.  And, when they finally closed the Hellmouth, the group was 
going to leave, regardless.  They were only sticking around that 
town out of a sense of obligation.  Once Sunnydale was no longer the 
center of the Big Brewing Evil, they were going to have to go 
elsewhere.  Like Cleveland.  Or to open an office supply store in 
Vegas as a front for fighting the evil activity, there.  And nearby 
Santa Carla has almost as big a vampire problem as Sunnydale (That's 
what I always hated about Santa Carla), though the locals there seem 
to have it under control.  Then there's New Orleans, which not only 
is full of Big Brewing Evil, but Pretentious Big Brewing Evil.  As 
if the vamps weren't enough, there's all those people in Seattle 
decapitating each other (Or is it Vancouver?) and knocking out the 
power.  Throw in the situation in England with those evil wizards 
and Buffy and Company have a full plate.  

I think Anya, Spike (as far as they knew), and a chunk of the girls 
was a bigger loss for the group than Sunnydale.  

E    



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