Re: Something I've noticed about people who notice stuff.

[maría virginia <virginia2k_15@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi! mmmm well...all your message i guess it has to be with mine or 
the things i said, i see your point, and it makes sense, and i think 
i need to clear up my mind a little bit, thanks for making me see 
this point of view, i really apreciate people who talk what they have 
on their minds, and you are one of them. when i wrote that message 
it was for me to start a discussion and i've loved how people react 
to it, cause everyone did write their opinions whether it was bad or 
good i liked it, but the only one that really caught my attention was 
yours! I personally love your work and your site, im a really great 
fan of it!...and the things you said are true, i was just pissed of 
with some things i've read, but it's an internal thing i must keep to 
myself...:D! thanks once again! and people! PEACE OUT! I LOVE YOU 
ALL! :D

P.D: I love male writers...in fact i love everyone who writes! for 
god sake you keep moving this world!!! :D ( sorry my mistakes im from 
venezuela...hahaha! bye)







--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "TheBear" <thebear@p...> 
wrote:
> Everyone has pet peeves. Some people can't stand spelling or
> grammatical errors, they just can't read a story that has them, no
> matter how interesting the subject. Others have strong opinions on 
what
> is and isn't realistic within action scenes. They will argue 
ballistics
> and angles and such until they are blue in the face. I've 
encountered a
> few individuals who absolutely lose their minds when someone doesn't
> follow the `rules of writing fiction'
> 
>  
> 
> And then we have the origin of this thread, the sex-scene pet peeve.
> 
>  
> 
> I find it especially ironic when someone who happens to be a lesbian
> makes the claim "lesbians don't do that" or "that never happens."  
Maybe
> it is because of the fact that homosexuals make up a small portion 
of
> the populace that gives someone the idea that they can speak for the
> group as a whole with any kind of confidence. One might be less 
likely
> to hear some het speaking up and saying "Well I'm heterosexual and
> therefore I know that none of us ever do that!"
> 
> Guess what? Everyone is different, and anything you think `just 
isn't
> done'? There are people out there who not only do it, they 
absolutely
> revel in it. I've on occasion had FB from angry women who- acting 
as
> though they to speak for all lesbians everywhere- take extreme 
exception
> to things I've written; and then the very next email is another 
lesbian
> or bisexual woman who is raving about how she loved the scene, and 
has
> done the same thing herself. People are different. They have 
different
> tastes, likes, dislikes, kinks, etc?
> 
> If you want to tell someone that you personally don't think a scene 
is
> realistic and is certainly not something you or your partners would 
ever
> engage in? fine. Thanks for your opinion, have a nice day.  
However, if
> you are inclined to offer your opinion as though it were solid,
> unquestionable fact? Well, if I want your `expert' opinion, I'll 
let you
> know. Bu-bye!
> 
>  
> 
> Speaking of what is, or is not likely- one would also be well-
advised to
> remember that fanfic, by its very nature, is all about fantasy. We 
are
> writing our fantasies using well-known characters (generally from
> someone else's creative fiction) with whom we have fallen in love.  
As
> another member of this list has already mentioned, we aren't 
offering a
> how-to manual of lesbian sex here- we're exploring our own 
fantasies.
> If you aren't enjoying my fantasy- then please, by all means move 
along
> to the next story. If you have some actually constructive 
criticism to
> offer, I'd love to hear it. Just remember that your opinion, while
> important to you, is not the Word of God, and you shouldn't expect 
me to
> treat it as such.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, there is some absolute schisse out there masquerading as 
writing;
> and it's certainly ok to offer the authors of such `work' some 
advice on
> improving. But, if they aren't amenable to constructive criticism, 
just
> let it go. Don't read anything with their name on it in the future.
> But certainly don't allow it to make you angry or upset- that's just
> silly. (in my opinion)
> 
>  
> 
> TheBear!
> 
> thebear@p...
> 
> http://www.papa-bear.com
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maría virginia [mailto:virginia2k_15@y...] 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:23 AM
> To: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: ~Buffy*Wants*Willow~ Re: Something I've noticed.
> 
>  
> 
> Hey don't want to be rude but...[and, in those interests, a very 
brief
> edit--Dan] ...im sorry but i kind of find your 
> message very deffensive, i mean im not saying that all the fanfics 
> are bad or stuff like that, im just saying something i noticed not 
> only in here, i've read fanfics since i was 12 (note: and im 
> 18) and this is something i've noticed like ALWAYS! and i was 
trying 
> to find out if i was the only one to noticed it...and for me 
fanfics 
> are part of the imagination, and a big start for really good 
writers, 
> but when it comes to a general and real thing like it is the art of 
> making love, you should know what you are getting into, cause if 
you 
> know how to write not only that part but the others very well then 
> your story will be EXCELLENT! and it'll help you, it's like talking 
> about something on the tv and not having a clue what are you 
talking 
> about, how can you espect everyone to understand what are you 
trying 
> to say? well, just read, watch and learn about it and THEN, YOU CAN 
> TALK! that's it....and once again sorry the grammar in case i have 
> mistakes!!!....bye!