Re: VERY OT - small discussion on ANGEL season finale/ and thoughts on Btvs

[Jason Rune <winter_herald@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- Bionic Slayer <bionicslayer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Ok - I saw the season finale of Angel last
> night...and I wanted to discuss it here as it is an
> ME production and I see a few similar things
> happending in BtVS...spoiler space.....

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> In my opinion...last night's angel episode was the
> worst way to end a relatively good season. If you
> didn't see it but are still reading
> this...essentially the PTB think that Cordy has
> evolved to a higher being and want her help in a
> higher plain....fine...we get to see Cordelia, the
> highschool, hell mouth bitch (merely for her
> treatment of willow...will never forget softer side
> of sears comment)...ascend into heaven so to
> speak...

Even forgetting Cordy's behavior in Sunnydale, I don't
think she (or the writers) earned this plotline.

Skip was complimenting her on her responsible use of
power. But how many things did she actually do
*intentionally*? I think she may have willfully
healed Connor, but I was under the impression that all
of her other uses of her new demonic powers were
involuntary (reflexive, if you will) reactions to
danger of some kind.

I mean, there haven't even been that many
Cordy-uses-power scenes. She got rid of the glowy
water squid things (reflex!); she failed to close the
portal (when she actually tried.) How is that enough
for TPTB to make her a Higher Being? Does having
recieved the visions count for that much?

The ending scene with Cordy rising and Angel sinking
could have been good, if it had been earned.

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> week...as its not quite been a week yet...
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> tonight we get to see willow's descent into hell
> based on what we've seen thus far. Can I just ask
> one thing?? Is everyone at ME on CRACK?? Thats the
> only explanation I can come up with...it explains
> the ridiculous drug metaphor we've seen this
> year....

Yes! That's exactly it. Maybe David Fury has
remained pure, however; we can only hope. Obi-Dave,
you're our only hope. Use the Force, don't to drugs. 
Of course, now that the Force is really just something
in your bloodstream, maybe power *is* just chemical
enhancements, after all.

> YES - we all make choices....perhaps if Hitler had
> had a better upbringing...he wouldn't have been
> responsible for the deaths of over 6mil people....do
> we have to do this to willow though?? shes like the
> spirit of the group....now shes gone insane...our
> has lost her soul....

Exactly. Willow *is* the spirit of the group (and of
Buffy herself, if you take it to the next level.)

<bright-side class="sorta">Well, this *is* supposed to
be a season about internal conflict, right? So maybe
Buffy's fight with Willow is really a fight with her
own soul.</bright-side>

Heck, maybe she's still in the insane asylum and her
condition is just worsening.

> to quote vamp willow and vengeance willow...bored
> now

That was creepy. If she was intentionally imitating
her vampire double, that's creepy; if it's a latent
part of her personality, that's really really creepy.

> what could be worse???

Snyder returning from Hell to give Jonathan and Andrew
a sexual education in prison, in a special Anime
episode featuring the First Monster Out of the
Hellmouth in a ten-minute Hentai segment.

<shudder>

Damn, I think I just wigged myself out with that one. 
I'm leaving now.

-Jason Rune (Who doesn't actually watch Anime of any description...)

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